Starling Tribune – Season 5.5 Edition – Legends Of Tomorrow Out Of Time (A CW Network Arrow Television Show Fan Podcast)

The Official Arrow Podcast of the Gonna Geek Network

“Out of Time” [Season 2  Episode 1]

Air Date:           Thursday, October 13, 2016

Director:      Dermott Downs http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0236173/?ref_=tt_ov_dr

                   5x Legends | 3x Arrow | 6x The Flash | 3x Supergirl | 1x iZombie | 2x The Originals | 1x Gotham

Writers:       Marc Guggenheim (teleplay) http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0973233/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr5

Executive Producer of Arrow and Legends | 12x Arrow | 7x Legends

Phil Klemmer (teleplay) http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0459237/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr6

7x Legends | 3x Forever | 3x The Tomorrow People | 12x Chuck | 11x Veronica Mars

Greg Berlanti (story) http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0075528/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr7

Mega Producer: Arrow, Flash, Legends, Supergirl, Riverdale

Chris Fedak (story) http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1776338/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr8

5x Legends | 3x Forever | 17x Chuck

Weekly Ratings

Legends Of Tomorrow

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 Out Of Time 13-Oct-2016 3.01

Supergirl

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 The Adventures of Supergirl 10-Oct-16 3.06

02 The Last Children of Krypton 17-Oct-16 2.66

03 Welcome to Earth 24-Oct-16 2.65

04 Survivors 31-Oct-16 2.22

05 Crossfire 7-Nov-16 2.47

06 Changing 14-Nov-16 2.35

07 The Darkest Place 21-Nov-16 2.61

08 Medusa 28-Nov-16 3.53

09 Supergirl Lives 23-Jan-17

THE FLASH

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 Flashpoint 4-Oct-16 3.17

02 Paradox 11-Oct-16 2.80

03 Magenta 18-Oct-16 2.67

04 The New Rogues 25-Oct-16 2.80

05 Monster 1-Nov-16 2.77

06 Shade 15-Nov-16 3.01

07 Killer Frost 22-Nov-16 2.95

08 Invasion! 29-Nov-16 4.15

09 The Present 6-Dec-16 3.14

10 Borrowing Problems From The Future 24-Jan-17

ARROW

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 Legacy 5-Oct-16 1.89

02 The Recruits 12-Oct-16 1.94

03 A Matter Of Trust 19-Oct-16 1.79

04 Penance 26-Oct-16 1.87

05 Human Target 2-Nov-16 1.61

06 So It Begins 9-Nov-16 1.95

07 Vigilante 16-Nov-16 1.86

08 Invasion! 30-Nov-16 3.55

09 What We Leave Behind 7-Dec-16 1.94

10 Who Are You 25-Jan-17

11 Second Chances TBD

12 Bratva TBD

13 Spectre Of The Gun TBD

14 The Sin-Easter TBD

Part 1: The Plot, Themes and Characters

• What was the overall theme for this episode / What was the link to the ep. name
  • They are outside of time – being in the time stream
  • They have only so much time to save New York city before changes to history are set
• Fight scenes & Stunts: Share your thoughts
  • French chateau fight. Ninjas plus musketeers plus Legends
  • Fight on the Dock
    • Sarah v. Damien Darhk
    • Team was totally not coordinated
• Time Travel: Share your thoughts
  • 1637 – Have to save the future of France by making sure King and Queen conceive
    • Sara seduced by Queen
    • Mick, Stein, and Rip – Three Musketeers
    • End up using powers because others had laser guns
  • 1942 – New York – source of the Time Quake
    • Told by Rex not to go there
    • Go there to save NYC
    • Einstein, Nazis, great costumes, U-boat, Atomic bomb
    • Even the Legends are guilty of assuming only a man could have the knowledge to make the bomb
  • Time Scatter –
    • 70 mya – Ray in South Dakota w/Dino
    • 821 Tintangel, England – Stein and Jax wizards of a court
    • 1693 Salem – Sara accused of being a witch, happily corrupting women
• Sara Lance / White Canary
  • They don’t pull any punches right off the bat with Sarah’s sexuality, or with her physicality “Shut your mouth, Jax, or I’ll cut your eyes out and feed ’em to you.”
  • They make her desire for revenge on Damien Darhk a big part of the character right out of the gate as well.  Leads to the confrontation on the Waverider when Ray calls her out for trailing the Nazis.
• Ray Palmer / The Atom
  • Still the boy scout
  • Follows Sara when she says she’s going to see Grandpa in FBI
  • Is he just a guy in a suit?
• Mick Rory / Heat Wave
  • Found by Ollie and Heywood in statis
  • Injured during fight, why Rip put him in stasis; gets to pilot the Waverider to find team
  • Follows orders in France by not bringing gun, but breaks them by stealing
  • Einstein thinks he is the brains of the operation
• Martin Stein / Firestorm
  • Giddy to meet Einstein, but disappointed (Never meet your heroes)
• Jefferson Jackson / Firestorm
  • I really dig his knowledge of the ship
  • Foreshadows finding the hidden section of the ship later on.
• Nate Heywood / Steel
  • Goes to Ollie because he realizes Legends are in trouble
  • Time detective
• Amaya Jiwe / Vixen
• Rip Hunter
  • Seems like he spends a lot of the episode frustrated
  • I get what he was doing with Jax (reminded me of the Karate Kid a bit with wax on wax off), but was it necessary
  • Couldn’t he have told the crew about the time scatter earlier?
  • Rehearsed an emergency drill or something?
• Gideon
  • Without saying much except for “I’m here Captain” before the time scatter, Gideon seems really human.  Damn
• Justice Society of America (JSA)
  • Obsedian
  • Commander Steel
  • Dr. Mid-Nite
  • Stargirl
• Legion of Doom
  • Damien Darhk
    • Is the one who supplied the Nazis with uranium
    • Recognizes Sara’s fighting style
    • Germans want him to get another bomb, reveals his partner wants to move on
  • Eobard Thawne / Reverse-Flash
    • Revealed at end to be Darhk’s partner
  • Malcolm Merlyn
     

CURRENT EPISODE DC EASTER EGGS & POP CULTURE REFERENCES

Season 02 Episode 01  “Out of Time” (Date: 13 Oct 2016)
Article:http://comicbook.com/dc/2016/10/13/dcs-legends-of-tomorrow-things-you-might-have-missed-in-out-of-t/   

1. Out of Time – As has been the case a lot in the first couple of weeks of The CW’s TV season, the episode’s title — “Out of Time” — is a bit of a reference in and of itself. It’s likely been the name of a number of time travel-related stories — but most recently, it was the name of a story that ran through The Flash #30-35 (from the 2011 series) and featured, among other villains, The Reverse-Flash. The fact that the final moments of the episode incorporate the “surprise” appearance of Eobard Thawne, then, suggests this could have been a more-than-incidental use of the name.
2. OLIVER QUEEN – Oliver Queen, seen wearing a suit and not in his Green Arrow costume for the purposes of this season finale, is played by Stephen Amell. The star of Arrow, Oliver is generally considered the genesis point for The CW’s DC Universe (even though they obviously had Smallville and Birds of Prey long before Arrow came along). Amell’s Green Arrow appeared in the series premieres of both The Flash and DC’s Legends of Tomorrow, so this episode more or less continues a tradition.
3. NATE HEYWOOD – Nick Zano joins the cast as Nate Heywood — “Citizen Steel” — who in the comics inherits the powers and costume of his grandfather. He’s a troubled individual, suffering from both physical and emotional damage, in the comics — but as Zano told ComicBook.com at Comic Con International: San Diego, that’s not the direction they’re going with Heywood on TV.
4. THE THREE MUSKETEERS – Cardinal Richelieu, depicted as one of the villains of Alexandre Dumas’ The Three Musketeers, being included in this episode more or less cements the idea that they look like that on purpose — and explains why certain characters who were strategically important in the fight — like Jax, for instance — had to stay out of sight.
5. REX TYLER – Rex Tyler, the Golden Age Hourman and a veteran member of the Justice Society of America, is one of a number of DC heroes who would pass on his name and legacy numerous times over the decades to come in the comics. On TV, he made a single, brief appearance at the end of the season 1 finale of DC’s Legends of Tomorrow, and will show up again — with the rest of the Justice Society this time — in next week’s episode as well.
6. DAMIEN DARHK – Damien Darhk was the season four big bad on Arrow. Like Ra’s al Ghul, he’s a very old man who has been kept relatively young by the Lazarus Pit because of his position of power and authority first within the League of Assassins and later in H.I.V.E. Originally created as a villain in The Titans, Darhk’s control of H.I.V.E. made him an ideal choice when The CW decided to introduce a magical villain last year. He was nearly unbeatable until Oliver figured out how to manipulate Darhk’s energy to his own ends, and now he’s dead — except that as somebody who’s been not only alive, but rich and powerful for decades, he’s surprisingly easy for a time-traveling troublemaker to find and recruit.
7. ALBERT EINSTEIN – First of all, he’s appeared in DC Comics before. In an oversized issue Superman vs. Wonder Woman, Nazis went after Einstein in 1942. Ultimately, Wonder Woman rescues him but ends up finding out about the Manhattan Project. After becoming a person of interest for a while and throwing down with Superman a bit, she ends up teaming up with the Last Son of Krypton to track down and defeat Baron Blitzkrieg. Secondly, the thing with his wife is actually based in historical controversy.  Mileva Marić was a Serbian physicist and has long been rumored to have coauthored Einstein’s 1905 paper on relativity.
8. INSULTING RAY – Calling him a “boy scout” feels like a nod to Brandon Routh’s time as Superman, but the whole “what are you without that suit?” reeks of Marvel’s The Avengers. That’s a comic book movie reference twofer!
9. REVERSE-FLASH – Eobard Thawne, the Reverse-Flash, may have something up his sleeve. At the end of The Flash’s Season 3 premiere earlier this month, he said that while his future was as it should be, Barry’s might not be. Barry then went home to discover a number of small anomalies that made his life and those of his friends worse. Now, we learn that “somebody” is outfitting the villains of history with future tech in order to push the world to a slightly worse place. Could Eobard Thawne have stepped right out of “Flashpoint” and into “Out of Time?” Either way, seeing him and Darhk together is enough to make seasoned Arrowverse fans quake in their boots even before they know the other members of Thawne’s little Legion of Doom.

ARROW NEWS

1. New Arrow trailer reveals Laurel Lance twist (Date: 03 Jan 2017)
   Laurel is the Black Siren. Promo is from EW.com. Arrow returns Wednesday, Jan. 25 at 8 p.m. ET on The CW.
   Link:http://ew.com/tv/2017/01/03/arrow-laurel-lance-black-siren-video/  
2. Diggle is Making a new friend!  (Date: 04 Jan 2017)
   Wendy Mericle told TVLine: “Diggle emerges from jail with a much bigger drive, and not the same fatalism that he had earlier in the season. He’s going to come up against Colonel Walker and grow closer to Adrian Chase.” Guess having a good lawyer on his side in the form of the DA, as well as Vigilante, will help!
   Link:https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/01/04/john-diggle-makes-new-friend-arrow-returns/
3. Talia to play a crucial role in the Prometheus arc!  (Date: 04 Jan 2017)
   * Speaking with TV Line, Mericle called the Prometheus mystery “a gift that keeps on giving for the rest of the season,” adding that it will be Ra’s al Ghul’s daughter, Talia al Ghul, who plays a “crucial part” in helping Oliver solve the Prometheus mystery.
   * Stargate SG-1 actress Lexa Doig was recently cast to play the DC TV version of Talia on Arrow
   Link:http://comicbook.com/2017/01/04/arrow-talia-al-ghul-prometheus-connection/  
4. com’s Five predictions for the second half of S.05  (Date: 05 Jan 2017)
   Guys, do we agree or disagree:
   1. Laurel will drive a lot of the story in the second half of the season
   2. The Prometheus story will heat up
   3. Talia will appear in the present (she’s only been in flashbacks so far)
   4. The Arrow v. Vigilante fight will boil over into city hall (in politics)
   5. Reforming and coming back to the Original Team Arrow is the endgame (Oliver, Felicity, Diggle)
   Link:http://comicbook.com/2017/01/05/arrow-five-predictions-for-remainder-of-season-5/

GENERAL DC TV NEWS

5. FIRST CLIP FROM KEVIN SMITH’S SUPERGIRL EP SHOWS CASUAL, QUIPPY TONE (Date: 27 Dec 2016)
   After directing an episode of season two of “The Flash,” Kevin Smith is returning to the CW to direct an episode of “Supergirl”. There’s one big development that’s revealed in the clip: Mon-El finally got a job! He’s working as a bartender, which makes a lot of sense given his party-boy Daxamite background. True to form though, he’s not great at fetching club soda for Kara, preferring to serve her something brown and boozy.
   Link:http://www.cbr.com/first-clip-from-kevin-smiths-supergirl-ep-shows-casual-quippy-tone/  
6. Tense Flash clip finds Barry and Wally at odds (Date: 27 Dec 2016)
   Wally, reveling in his newly rediscovered Kid Flash powers, appears to have gotten a little over eager during what was supposed to be a training session with Barry. Despite the fact that he saves the Flash’s life, Barry is none too happy with his protégé, and brings him to task for doing instead of observing and learning like he was supposed to.The clip also teases the introduction of another villain from the comics, with Wally bragging about how he put Plunder into Iron Heights. Plunder was previously shown in a season three episode in a news report, wearing an eye patch.   
   Link:http://www.cbr.com/tense-flash-clip-finds-barry-and-wally-at-odds/  
7. New Legends Of Tomorrow trailer Features Legion Of Doom (Date: xx month year)
   * The CW Television Network has just dropped a brand new trailer for the second-half of the second season of DC’s Legends of Tomorrow.
   * It begins with Nate and Ray mentioning for the first time that Eobard Thawne (Matt Letscher), Damien Darhk (Neal McDonough) and Malcolm Merlyn (John Barrowman) are member of the Legion of Doom — though White Canary doesn’t want to call them that.
   * We also learn, from a Sara-Jax exchange, that the Legion have Rip Hunter.
   * Lots of great action!
   Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/12/24/new-legends-of-tomorrow-trailer-features-legion-of-doom/  
8. Jeremy Jordan Talks Winn’s Evolution on Supergirl (Date: 02 Jan 2017)
   Jeremy Jordan discusses with Comicbook.com how Winn is developing from last season now that he is with the DEO instead of CatCo. “I think that Winn has become a foil for the audience in terms of how he’s giving us the fanboy reaction play by play, and that’s a really fun, exciting aspect of Winn to play,” Jordan said. “That’s ‘old Winn.’ That who Winn has always been at his core. At the same time, Winn is growing up and learning to guard himself and learning to protect his friends and he kind of becomes a little bit of the sage advice-giver this season, whether he’s giving advice to Alex or cautioning James to take it easy. I think he’s learned a lot from Cat and he’s learned a lot from his experience in the past year or so and it’s forced him to grow up a lot.”
   Link:http://comicbook.com/2017/01/02/jeremy-jordan-on-supergirl/  
9. Geoff Johns Will Return To Writing Comics In 2017, Teases Another New DCTV Show (Date: 01 Jan 2017)
   Geoff Johns’ top 5 DC events that he’s looking forward to in 2017 has revealed that DC’s Chief Creative Officer will be returning to comics and also that there’s a new DCTV show on the horizon. It seems pretty clear that Johns’ return to writing a DC comic will involve the Watchmen characters that were behind the Rebirth event. But will that be a new series exclusively focusing on those characters or are we looking at another crossover event? There’s still a lot of mystery surrounding Ozymandias and Doctor Manhattan’s role in Rebirth so the safe bet would be another event series continuing on from where Rebirth left off. As far as a new DCTV series is concerned, will it be airing on The CW, Fox, Syfy or some other network?  And with the large number of DC characters already appearing on the various shows, will it be another spinoff series?
   Link:https://www.comicbookmovie.com/comics/dc_comics/geoff-johns-will-return-to-writing-comics-in-2017-teases-another-a147819  
10. Cisco Ramon may be getting a love interest  (Date: 05 Jan 2017)
    * Gypsy is a character who teamed with Vibe, Vixen, and a handful of other heroes on the ’80s’ notorious “Justice League Detroit,” and she is expected to make her way to Central City soon…
    * Gypsy may be the one to help him really power through the challenges ahead while shedding some of the baggage of the last few months.
    * From a TVLine interview: “Cisco will find in the ‘badass’ Gypsy ‘a very strong adversary’ as well as ‘someone he can’t stop thinking about.’”
    Link:http://comicbook.com/2017/01/05/the-flash-will-gypsy-be-a-love-interest-for-cisco-/
11. The back half of Supergirl S.02 will explore the Kara/Mon-El relationship  (Date: 05 Jan 2017)
    * A recent clip from Kevin Smith’s latest Supergirl episode showed another ‘meet-cute’ moment between the two model-faced aliens,
    * According to executive producer Ali Adler, we’ll see that romantic sub-plot continue over the latter half of season 2.
    * As Adler told TV Line when laying out the mid-season 2 arcs, “We’ll explore more of that relationship… Kara still has to figure out how she feels about him.”
    * The fact that we now know Mon-El is hiding a possibly nefarious secret will also have to be addressed, with Adler acknowledging, “A lot of secrets have been brewing this season,” and that as season 2 gets into its latter half, “We’ll get definitive answers.”
    Link:http://comicbook.com/2017/01/05/supergirl-midseason-2-mon-el-romance-spoilers/  

GREEN ARROW COMICS & TOY NEWS

1. Green Arrow Issue #14 Dropped Today  (Date: 04 Jan 2017)
   * “EMERALD OUTLAW” part three!
   * Tension in Seattle reaches fever pitch when the media begins to question Green Arrow’s involvement in a series of murders committed by an archer with unmatched skills. If the police can’t catch this mysterious archer, can Green Arrow and Black Canary? Plus, the rogue police officer Ollie humiliated in a viral video returns to take the law into his own hands.
   * Writer Benjamin Percy | Art: Eleonora Carlini, Carlos Rodriguez, Gus Vasquez | Color: Hi-fi Letterer: Nate Piekos of Blambot(R)
   Link:https://www.comixology.com/Green-Arrow-2016-14/digital-comic/441641?ref=c2l0ZS9pbmRleC9jb20uY29taXhvbG9neS5kY2NvbWljczMvZGVza3RvcC9zbGlkZXJMaXN0LzE0ODEx
2. Green Arrow Trade Paperback #1  (Date: 05 Jan 2017)
   * Vol. 1: The Death and Life of Oliver Queen – BROKEN ARROW
   * writer BENJAMIN PERCY, illustrated by OTTO SCHMIDT and JUAN FERREYRA!
   * Collects GREEN ARROW: REBIRTH #1 and GREEN ARROW #1-5
   Link:https://www.comixology.com/Green-Arrow-2016-Vol-1-The-Death-and-Life-of-Oliver-Queen/digital-comic/439388?ref=Y29taWMvdmlldy9kZXNrdG9wL3NsaWRlckxpc3Qvc2VyaWVz

NEXT EPISODE

Episode:   “The Justice Society of America” [Season 1 Episode 2]

Air Date:        Thursday, October 20, 2016

Summary:      The Legends discover a time aberration that threatens the Justice Society of America, who are on a mission to intercept and seize a mysterious package in Nazi-occupied Paris.

Director:         Michael Grossman

Writers:          Chris Fedak and Sarah Nicole Jones

IMDB:   http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5584096/?ref_=ttep_ep2

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Starling Tribune – Special Edition – Supergirl Mid-Season 2 (A CW Network Arrow Television Show Fan Podcast)

The Official Arrow Podcast of the Gonna Geek Network

Episode:            “The Adventures of Supergirl” [Season 2 Episode 1]

            Air date: 10 Oct 2016

            Director: Glen Winter

Writers: Andrew Kreisberg (story & teleplay); Jessica Queller (teleplay); Greg Berlanti (story)
Supergirl and Clark team up to stop a new threat emerging in National City; Alex feels left out while Kara’s family stays in town; a pod comes crashing down to earth.

Recap: http://comicbook.com/dc/2016/10/10/supergirl-recap-the-adventures-of-supergirl/  

Episode:            “The Last Children of Krypton” [Season 2 Episode 2]

            Air date: 17 Oct 2016

            Director: Glen Winter

Writers: Robert Rovner and Caitlin Parrish
Supergirl is hurt by a kryptonite-powered villain sent by Cadmus to attack National City. Superman blames Hank since the kryptonite was stolen from the DEO. In the meantime, Kara’s first day at her new job doesn’t go as planned when she meets her new boss.

Recap: http://comicbook.com/dc/2016/10/18/supergirl-recap-with-spoilers-last-children-of-krypton/   

Episode:            “Welcome to Earth” [Season 2 Episode 3]

            Air date: 24 Oct 2016

            Director: Rachel Talalay

Writers: Jessica Queller and Derek Simon
Supergirl and the DEO are assigned to protect the President when an attack on her causes alien vs. human rights in National City to heat up. Alex investigates the case with Maggie Sawyer while Kara fears Mon-El may be responsible.

            Recap: http://nerdist.com/supergirl-recap-welcome-to-earth/

Episode:            “Survivors” [Season 2 Episode 4]

            Air date: 31 Oct 2016

            Director: James Bamford and James Marshall

Writers: Paula Yoo and Eric Carrasco
Supergirl tries to stop an alien fight club run by Roulette, while Hank gets to know M’Gann.

            Recap: http://nerdist.com/supergirl-recap-survivors/  

Episode:            “Crossfire” [Season 2 Episode 5]

            Air date: 7 Nov 2016

            Director: Glen Winter

            Writer: Gabriel Llanas and Anna Musky-Goldwyn

Supergirl faces a ruthless new gang that’s been given new alien technology by Cadmus.          
Recap: http://nerdist.com/supergirl-recap-crossfire/

Episode:            “Changing” [Season 2 Episode 6]

            Air date: 14 Nov 2016

            Director: Larry Teng

Writers: Greg Berlanti (story by); teleplay by Andrew Kreisberg and Caitlin Parrish
The Guardian arrives to lend a hand when an alien parasite drains Supergirl of her power. Mon-El contemplates his motives when he considers a new career. Alex faces a new reality.

            Recap: http://nerdist.com/supergirl-recap-changing/  

Episode:            “The Darkest Place” [Season 2 Episode 7]

            Air date: 21 Nov 2016

            Director: Glen Winter

            Writers: Robert Rovner and Paula Yoo

Supergirl comes face-to-face with Cyborg Superman when she attempts to save Mon-El from Cadmus.

Recap: http://comicbook.com/dc/2016/11/22/supergirl-recap-with-spoilers-the-darkest-place/  

Episode:            “Medusa” [Season 2 Episode 8]

            Air date: 28 Nov 2016

            Director: Stefan Pleszczynski

Writers: Jessica Queller and Derek Simon

As Eliza comes to National City for Thanksgiving, Kara turns to Lena for help when Cadmus unleashes a virus that instantly kills aliens, then is asked by Barry Allen and Cisco Ramon for help with an alien invasion on their Earth. And the Epic 4-part crossover starts!!
 http://comicbook.com/dc/2016/11/29/supergirl-recap-with-spoilers-medusa/  

Weekly Ratings

Supergirl

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 The Adventures of Supergirl 10-Oct-16 3.06

02 The Last Children of Krypton 17-Oct-16 2.66

03 Welcome to Earth 24-Oct-16 2.65

04 Survivors 31-Oct-16 2.22

05 Crossfire 7-Nov-16 2.47

06 Changing 14-Nov-16 2.35

07 The Darkest Place 21-Nov-16 2.61

08 Medusa 28-Nov-16 3.53

09 Supergirl Lives 23-Jan-17

THE FLASH

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 Flashpoint 4-Oct-16 3.17

02 Paradox 11-Oct-16 2.80

03 Magenta 18-Oct-16 2.67

04 The New Rogues 25-Oct-16 2.80

05 Monster 1-Nov-16 2.77

06 Shade 15-Nov-16 3.01

07 Killer Frost 22-Nov-16 2.95

08 Invasion! 29-Nov-16 4.15

09 The Present 6-Dec-16 3.14

10 Borrowing Problems From The Future 24-Jan-17

ARROW

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 Legacy 5-Oct-16 1.89

02 The Recruits 12-Oct-16 1.94

03 A Matter Of Trust 19-Oct-16 1.79

04 Penance 26-Oct-16 1.87

05 Human Target 2-Nov-16 1.61

06 So It Begins 9-Nov-16 1.95

07 Vigilante 16-Nov-16 1.86

08 Invasion! 30-Nov-16 3.55

09 What We Leave Behind 7-Dec-16 1.94

10 Who Are You 25-Jan-17

11 Second Chances TBD

12 Bratva TBD

13 Spectre Of The Gun TBD

14 The Sin-Easter TBD

Part 1: The Plot, Themes and Characters

• Overall impressions – General thoughts
  • Much better feel on the CW
    • Audience knows about superheroes, so can be more direct about being a show about an alien superhero
  • Danvers sisters are the best sisters
    • Realistic portrayal of sisters; they have ups and downs but come back together for sister night and ice cream
    • Maggie Sawyer introduced in episode 3
  • No Cat Grant in season 2 – miss her!
  • Lynda Carter is the president – episode 3 “Welcome to Earth”
  • Roulette – alien fight club – Episode 4
    • Episode 4, “Survivors”
    • Kara, Mon-El, J’onn – have to learn how to deal with loneliness
    • Roulette (Dichen Lachman) – what has Supergirl given them? Cage? Is released because has all the right friends
    • Reminded me a lot of the Justice-League Unlimited episode – great Roulette
• Fight scenes & Stunts: Share your thoughts
  • Episode 3 – Alien fight club
    • Martians fight
    • Maggie and Alex against alien
    • Supergirl vs. Draaga
  • Alex and Kara /Superman and J’onn team up against Metallos.
• Supergirl/Kara Danvers:  
  • Still trying to find balance between Kara and Supergirl
  • Decides to be a reporter – after shadowing Clark. Did it feel natural?
  • Ends romantic path with James
  • Having to face truth that parents had secrets (Project Medusa, ep. 3)
  • Faces prejudices against Daxamites; has to realize that Mon-El doesn’t want to be just like her
  • Has a habit of putting fists on hips; superhero pose
  • Uses Supergirl as a source
  • Helping Mon-El gives her a chance to help him like she was to help Clark
  • Introduces Mon-El to the world too quickly
  • Loves potstickers and pizza
• Alex Danvers
  • Has had to protect Kara since teenager
  • Put up with Clark, but hurt when Kara said she wanted to move; Clark not around while Kara grew up
  • Voice of reason for Kara
  • Beautiful coming out story
• J’onn J’onzz/Martian Manhunter/Hank Henshaw
  • Finally gives Clark the Kryptonite
  • Last son of Mars; he thinks he’s not the last when he meets
  • M’gann M’orzz at alien dive bar
  • Has to deal with rage from learning M’gann is a White Martian; almost turned into one, but quickly cured by Eliza in ep. 3
  • Has to deal with the real Hank Henshaw being alive as Cyborg Superman  
• James Olson
  • Made in charge of Catco
  • Dad gave life for country
  • Not enough – wants to be a hero ever since he met Superman; becomes Guardian (Good move? Lame? Really lame?)
  • Can just walk into DEO
  • Does he ever work?
• Winn Schott
  • Used to work with Kara and James at Catco
  • IT guru for the DEO now
  • Son of the Toyman
  • Builds James’s Guardian suit
  • No shame in fighting with knowledge
• Snapper Carr
  • Tough editor; Perry White wannabe
  • Does teach Kara some reporting tips
• Mon-El
  • From Daxam
  • Has a secret – who is after him
  • Likes to drink and likes the ladies
  • Trouble finding job and place
  • Mike Matthews – fake name
• Maggie Sawyer
  • Cop; part of the Science Division
  • Introduces Alex to alien dive bar
  • Alex’s girlfriend!
• M’gann
  • Pretends to be a Green Martian
  • Fought in alien fight club
  • Bartender in alien dive bar
  • White Martian; exposes self to save J’onn
• Lena Luthor
  • Renames Luthor Corp to L Corp in order to redeem Luthor name
  • Adopted
  • Helpful to Kara (gives address to Roulette’s club); sees Kara as a friend
  • Doesn’t have a good relationship with Mom
  • Turns on Mom (ep. 3); didn’t know about Cadmus
  • Is she going to take over Cadmus?
• Cadmus
  • Goal – rid Earth of all aliens; Make Earth Human Again
  • Lillian Luthor is the scientist at large
  • Jeremiah Danvers has been a prisoner? for 15 years
• Hank Henshaw/Cyborg Superman
  • Left for dead; resurrected by Cadmus
  • Has the strength of Superman; was able to get into Fortress with Kara’s blood
  • Still out there somewhere

GENERAL DC TV NEWS

1. Gal Gadot Comments On Wonder Woman’s U.N. Ambassador Controversy (Date: 19 December 2016)
   “There are so many horrible things that are going on in the world, and this is what you’re protesting, seriously?” Gadot said about the backlash during a recent chat with TIME. She continued, “When people argue that Wonder Woman should ‘cover up,’ I don’t quite get it. They say, ‘If she’s smart and strong, she can’t also be sexy.’ That’s not fair. Why can’t she be all of the above?” Of course, Gadot is not the only baffled by the controversy. Protestors demanded Wonder Woman be removed from her honorary position because some felt it was inappropriate to have a busty white woman carry the torch. However, fans from around the world are now rallying behind Wonder Woman and emphasizing that her beauty in no way negates her inspirational history. Already, there are dozens of online petitions running which ask the U.N. to reinstate Wonder Woman as an ambassador. Over on Change.org, Chloe Behrens has created a petition which asks for Wonder Woman to be reinstated as an ambassador.
   Link: http://comicbook.com/2016/12/19/gal-gadot-comments-on-wonder-womans-u-n-ambassador-controversy/  
2. The CW’s Justice League Assembles In Fan Video (Date: 18 Dec 2016)
   In about a year, Justice League will finally hit the big screen, but that doesn’t mean you can’t get already have a taste of what the superhero squad can do. Sure, fans have already been treated to animated features starring the Justice League, but one Youtube had made an ultimate edit for fanboys and fangirls everywhere. UltraSargent has gone above and beyond with his newly released fan-video “CW’s JUSTICE LEAGUE,” and it will have you begging Warner Bros. to speed up their theatrical release of DC Comics’ heralded team. “So, here it is. After around 2 months, it’s finally done. This is my way of telling a unique story about the formation of the CW’s very own, Justice League of America. There was a lot of pressure on me (that I put on myself) that this video be good, so I really hope you guys enjoy this,” UltraSargent wrote.
   Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/12/19/the-cws-justice-league-assembles-in-fan-video/  
3. Justice League Dark International Trailer Released (Date: 20 Dec 2016)
   Warner Bros. Animation has released the international trailer for the upcoming film, which moves the focus to the magical side of the DC Universe. When nightmares start taking over the populace, the League is tasked with finding someone who can help stop it, and his name is John Constantine.
   Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/12/20/justice-league-dark-international-trailer-released/  
4. Suicide Squad Is The Most Popular Movie Of 2016 On IMDB (Date: 19 Dec 2016)
   According to the website, Suicide Squad was the most popular movie of 2016 on IMDB. Here’s what the ranking had to say about the supervillain flick: “Anticipation was high for the first big-budget movie lead by supervillains. All the signs were good with a cast that included Will Smith as Deadshot, Jared Leto as the Joker and Margot Robbie as the baseball bat-wielding troublemaker Harley Quinn. Robbie stole the show and the film helped position her as IMDb’s top star of 2016. And while there were naysayers for the film, written and directed by David Ayer, Suicide Squad took more than $745 million at the worldwide box office and made it the most popular movie on IMDb in 2016.”
   Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/12/20/suicide-squad-is-the-most-popular-movie-of-2016-on-imdb/  
5. The Flash (Season 3) – Official (Date: 21 Dec 2016)
   Official promo for Flash season 3.5. Barry tells Iris the truth about the future and the team works on preventing that future.
   Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/12/21/video-the-flash-season-3-official-borrowing-problems-from-the-future-t/?utm_source=Comicbook.com&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=161221_142638_Comicbook.com%20Daily%20Newsletter&utm_content=Link  
6. Supergirl Lives… Under A Red Sun – First Trailer For Supergirl’s January Return (Date: 21 Dec 2016)
   The first trailer for Supergirl’s return this January shows us a lot of different things: Roulette returns, something happens to Winn Schott in the field, and Supergirl goes through a portal and ends up on a world with a red sun… not good for a Kryptonian.
    Kevin Smith seems to kick ass.  Also great animation for Guradian’s sheild
   Link:http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/12/21/supergirl-lives-red-son-first-trailer-supergirls-january-return  

GREEN ARROW COMICS & TOY NEWS

1. Green Arrow Issue #13 – “EMERALD OUTLAW” part two
   Writer: Benjamin Percy Pencils Otto Schmidt Letters: Nate Piekos of Blambot
   Snow falls on Seattle as its mayoral race heats up with a rash of murders that implicate a deadly archer. As a city wonders what’s become of its Emerald Archer, Green Arrow and Black Canary race to rule out their prime suspect: Emiko Queen.
   Link:https://www.comixology.com/Green-Arrow-2016-13/digital-comic/431124?ref=c2VyaWVzL3ZpZXcvZGVza3RvcC9ncmlkTGlzdC9SZWNlbnRBZGRpdGlvbnM
2. Is Green Arrow Going Up Against the Dakota Access Pipeline In March? (Date: 19 Dec 2016)
   As part of an effort to reach the widest possible audience, The New 52 had downplayed Oliver Queen’s left-wing politics. When Rebirth came around, though, one of the things that Percy seemed to be saying was that being a political animal was so engrained in Oliver’s persona that removing it left the character missing something that hadn’t been replaced. On sale March 15, Green Arrow #19 sees the Emerald Archer and his former sidekick Arsenal going up against…well, it’s not exactly explained, but without larger context? It sounds a lot like the Dakota Access Pipeline project. Here’s the solicitation text: “Orphaned as an infant and raised on a Navajo reservation, the superhero Arsenal returns to his adopted home to defend it from a violent militia hired by…Queen Industries?! Oliver Queen’s company has been up to no good since his supposed death, but Green Arrow is on the scene to make things right. Unfortunately for Ollie, he’s the last person his former sidekick wants to see.”
   Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/12/19/is-green-arrow-going-up-against-the-dakota-access-pipeline-in-ma/  
3. DC’s REBIRTH Gets Its Own Trailer (Date: 20 DC 2016)
   Seven months into DC Comics’ “Rebirth” era, the publisher has released a trailer highlighting it as the start of “the next big epic.” The trailer, done to coincide with the release of the first collections from “Rebirth,” can be seen here:
   Link:http://www.newsarama.com/32451-dc-s-rebirth-gets-its-own-trailer.html
4. Wonder Woman writer and artist dropped by DC over ‘challenging relationship’ (Date: 20 Dec 2016)
   The critically acclaimed, Eisner-nominated comic series The Legend of Wonder Woman has been cancelled by DC Comics, because of what a spokesperson for DC called “a challenging relationship” with the husband and wife team behind the series. Since the cancellation was announced, fans have been wondering whether it was due to poor sales, or studio sexism towards Wonder Woman. However, the DC spokesperson told the Guardian that though “we loved the book and we were very excited to work on the collected volume”, the studio was concerned about Dillon’s public comments about other teams at DC on social media. In a series of now-deleted tweets, preserved online on Bleeding Cool, Dillon criticised the writing in another DC series, Wonder Woman: Earth One, and complained when DC approved future volumes of Earth One while he was waiting to hear about the future of his own series. “It is an unfortunate situation. We tried hard to make it work,” the DC spokesperson said.
   Link:https://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/dec/20/wonder-woman-writer-artist-ray-dillon-renae-de-liz-dropped-dc-relationship  

   http://www.blastr.com/2016-12-20/renae-de-liz-opens-about-why-dc-comics-cancelled-legend-wonder-woman  

NEXT EPISODE

Legends Of Tomorrow Season 2 Episode 1 “Out Of Time!”

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Starling Tribune – Special Edition – The Flash Mid-Season 3 (A CW Network Arrow Television Show Fan Podcast)

The Official Arrow Podcast of the Gonna Geek Network

Episode:            “Flashpoint” [Season 3 Episode 1]

            Air date: 4 Oct 2016

            Director: Jesse Warn

Writers: Andrew Kreisberg (story & teleplay); Brooke Roberts (teleplay); Greg Berlanti (story)

            Recap:http://www.cbr.com/the-flash-recap-flashpoint-comes-with-consequences/

Episode:            “Paradox” [Season 3 Episode 2]

            Air date: 11 Oct 2016

            Director: Ralph Hemecker

            Writers: Aaron Helbing and Todd Helbing

            Recap:http://www.ew.com/recap/the-flash-season-3-episode-2

Episode:            “Magenta” [Season 3 Episode 3]

            Air date: 18 Oct 2016

            Director: Armen V. Kevorkian

            Writers: Judalina Neira and David Kob

            Recap:http://www.ew.com/recap/the-flash-season-3-episode-3

Episode:            “The New Rogues” [Season 3 Episode 4]

            Air date: 25 Oct 2016

            Director: Stefan Pleszczynski

            Writers: Benjamin Raab and Deric A. Hughes

            Recap:http://www.ew.com/recap/the-flash-season-3-episode-4

Episode:            “Monster” [Season 3 Episode 5]

            Air date: 1 Nov 2016

            Director: C. Kim Miles

            Writer: Zack Stentz

            Recap:http://collider.com/the-flash-recap-monster/

Episode:            “Shade” [Season 3 Episode 6]

            Air date: 15 Nov 2016

            Director: J.J. Makaro

            Writers: Emily Silver and David Kob

            Recap: http://comicbook.com/dc/2016/11/16/the-flash-recap-with-spoilers-shade-/

Episode:            “Killer Frost” [Season 3 Episode 7]

            Air date: 22 Nov 2016

            Director: Kevin Smith

            Writers: Andrew Kreisberg & Brooke Roberts (teleplay); Judalina Neira (story)

Recap:http://comicbook.com/dc/2016/11/22/the-flash-recap-with-spoilers-killer-frost/

Episode:            “Invasion!” [Season 3 Episode 8]

            Air date: 29 Nov 2016

            Director: Dermott Downs

Writers: Aaron Helbing & Todd Helbing (teleplay); Greg Berlanti & Andrew Kreisberg (story)

     Recap: http://comicbook.com/dc/2016/11/30/the-flashrecap-with-spoilers-invasion-/

Episode:            “The Present” [Season 3 Episode 9]

            Air date: 6 Dec 2016

            Director: Rachel Talalay

Writers: Lauren Certo (teleplay); Aaron Helbing & Todd Helbing (story)      Recap:http://comicbook.com/dc/2016/12/07/the-flash-recap-with-spoilers-the-present/

Weekly Ratings

THE FLASH

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 Flashpoint 4-Oct-16 3.17

02 Paradox 11-Oct-16 2.80

03 Magenta 18-Oct-16 2.67

04 The New Rogues 25-Oct-16 2.80

05 Monster 1-Nov-16 2.77

06 Shade 15-Nov-16 3.01

07 Killer Frost 22-Nov-16 2.95

08 Invasion! 29-Nov-16 4.15

09 What We Leave Behind 7-Dec-16 1.94

10 Borrowing Problems From The Future 24-Jan-17

ARROW

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 Legacy 5-Oct-16 1.89

02 The Recruits 12-Oct-16 1.94

03 A Matter Of Trust 19-Oct-16 1.79

04 Penance 26-Oct-16 1.87

05 Human Target 2-Nov-16 1.61

06 So It Begins 9-Nov-16 1.95

07 Vigilante 16-Nov-16 1.86

08 Invasion 30-Nov-16 3.55

09 The Present 6-Dec-16 3.14

10 Who Are You TBD

11 Second Chances TBD

12 Bratva TBD

13 Spectre Of The Gun TBD

Part 1: The Plot, Themes and Characters

• Flashpoint
  • Barry spends 3 months in alt-reality
    • He’s a CSI, lives with parents, not a part of Iris’s life
    • Joe drinks a lot, bad at job, and not part of Barry’s life
    • Wally is Kid Flash
    • Cisco is rich; made Wally’s outfit; doesn’t want to be part of crime fighting team because he got a vibrating hand through his ribs
    • Caitlin is an eye doctor for kids
    • The Rival is a speedster that gives Wally a lot of trouble; Barry wants to help
    • Barry keeps Eobard Thawne in a cage; Eobard tells Barry that things will get bad
    • When Barry uses powers, the memories from old life start to disappear
    • Wally gets hurt; prompts Barry to go back
    • Eobard makes Barry tell him to kill his mother
    • Eobard knows Barry messed up timeline when they go back
    • First change – Iris and Joe don’t talk
    • Alchemy debuts
    • For all of the hype – lasts 1 episode
  • Fight scenes & Stunts: Share your thoughts

• Barry Allen:  
  • Selfish – goes back and saves Mom
  • Tries to go back again – gets schooled by OG Flash – Earth 3’s Jay Garrick
  • Raked over the coals by Cisco and Caitlin/Killer Frost about Flashpoint
  • Sees future – Savitar kills Iris; now tempted to be obsessed with changing future
  • Throws stone into Speed Force
  • Signs Iris’s name to lease without telling her first
• Iris West
  • Barry admits there is no Flash without her
  • When will she get the chance to be a kickass reporter?
  • Gives him a pep talk about he’s not a god and that he needs to be the leader
• Joe West
  • Has to repair things with Iris
  • Gets a girlfriend
  • Reluctant to let Wally train
• Cisco Ramon
  • Dante died in car accident because of Flashpoint
  • Angry at Barry because he wouldn’t go save Dante and then because Dante alive before Flashpoint
  • Due to Flashpoint has better gear and control over powers
  • Accidentally messes with timeline during Invasion; understands Barry more
  • Stone uses his memories of Dante to release Savitar; Caitlin talks him down
• Caitlin Snow
  • Gets powers due to Flashpoint
  • Mother tells her that if she uses power, she will lose control
  • Uses powers to question one of Alchemy’s goons; kidnaps Julian; wants Alchemy to take her powers
  • Uses Cisco’s cuffs to suppress powers
  • Makes it snow
• Wally West
  • Jealous/frustrated that Jesse got speed powers and not him
  • Wants to be a hero
  • Gets activated by Alchemy
  • Is really, really fast
  • Given a suit and made part of team at Christmas
• HR Wells
  • From Earth-19
  • Not a genius; is a writer, more of an idea person
  • Likes coffee and talking a lot
  • Trains Wally behind everyone’s back
• Julian
  • CSI that appears after Barry fixes Flashpoint
  • Can’t stand Barry
  • Blacks out when he’s Alchemy
  • Lets team hook his brain to box so they can talk to Savitar
  • Spent money finding stone; releases Savitar
  • Joins the Christmas party
  • Made Barry resign to protect Caitlin; after Alchemy reveal, tells Barry to come back
• Dr. Alchemy
  • Appears after Flashpoint
  • Gives people who had powers in Flashpoint back their powers
• Savitar
  • God of Speed
  • Only Barry, Jay, and Wally can see him
  • Prediction: one will fall, one will betray, one suffer fate worse than death
  • “I am the future, Flash” or “I am the Future Flash”
  • Barry’s future self trapped Savitar in eternity; the Rise of his Vengeance has begun
• Other Villains
  • Magenta
  • Mirror Master and the Top

ARROW NEWS:

1. Arrow Tragedy Will Push Felicity to a Darker, ‘Morally Questionable’ Place (Date: 11 Dec 2016)
   Wendy Mericle discussed Felicity with TVline.com. “One thing Felicity is not going to do, I can tell you for sure, is blame Oliver. She recognizes the manipulations that have led to this situation,” said Wendy Mericle, “Felicity has set her sights on Prometheus. This season we have said we’re going to take her to a darker place, and you’re seeing the genesis of the reason why, right here.”
   Link:http://tvline.com/2016/12/11/arrow-season-5-felicity-spoilers-billy-malone-death/  
2. ARROW, SUPERGIRL, FLASH Go Retro In BATMAN ’66 Style Animated Credits (Date: 12 Dec 2016)
   Fans have been pointing out similarities between Green Arrow and Batman since the 40s, when Ollie was parking his Arrowcar in his Arrowcave. Now, the Emerald Archer is following in the Dark Knight’s footsteps one more time, and he’s bringing the rest of CW’s DC-Verse with him in this Arrow credit sequence, animated in the style of the Batman ’66 TV credits by YouTube user Dave Jones.
   Link:http://www.newsarama.com/32339-arrow-supergirl-and-the-flash-go-retro-in-batman-66-style-animated-credits.html  
3. Stephen Amell Uses Batman Begins To Explain An Arrow Season 5 Plot Point (Date: 14 Dec 2016)
   The CW’s Arrow showrunner Wendy Mericle recently talked about the direction of the Susan Williams plot thread on Arrow, saying that the reporter hasn’t let up on trying to prove that Oliver Queen was living and operating out of Russia during the five years he was supposedly stranded on a deserted island. In trying to explain the story, series star Stephen Amell turned to a familiar superhero staple for audiences: Batman Begins. “Susan appears to be up to no good, but in reality, she’s just following a very interesting story,” Amell told reporters during a set visit back in November. “I mean, the mayor of the town where she’s a reporter was clearly not on an island for five consecutive years — which, by the way, I think it’s about time we did that. I always think back to the first Nolan Batman, where Ra’s al Ghul says to him ‘The world is too small a place for someone like Bruce Wayne to disappear.’ Even if [Oliver] wasn’t as famous — and he wasn’t — he did perish in a very famous incident in our story. I always thought when he was in Hong Kong that someone would stop him and be like, ‘Hey, you look like Oliver Queen!’ but it didn’t happen.”
   Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/12/14/stephen-amell-uses-batman-begins-to-explain-an-arrow-season-5-pl/  
4. Hollywood’s 50 Favorite Female Characters (Date: 09 Dec 2016)
   For THR’s latest intra-industry poll, the editors asked Hollywood professionals — actors, writers, directors and others — to take an online survey of their favorite fictional female characters. More than 1,800 participated — twice as many women as men — but the results proved there isn’t such a great divide between the sexes after all, at least when it comes to what types of females we enjoy watching on screens. #15 is Felicity Smoak – Felicity was supposed to be a minor character, but her chemistry with Oliver Queen made her a fan favorite. By season two of The CW’s adaptation of the DC comic, she was a regular player. “Felicity has developed over the course of the series,” says Rickards. “She’s from a regular world. She’s relatable, honest and grounded. But she’s not boring.”
   Link:http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lists/50-best-female-characters-entertainment-industry-survey-results-951483/item/felicity-smoak-arrow-50-favorite-female-characters-951539  

GENERAL DC TV NEWS

1. THE FLASH Set To Introduce Justice League Detroit Member Gypsy For The Second Half Of Season 3 (Date: 11 Dec 2016)
   The Flash will introduce another DC hero to lend Barry Allen and friends a hand for the remaining season 3 episodes. During a new installment of The CW’s Fan Feast, actor Carlos Valdes (Vibe) confirmed that Gypsy/Cindy Reynolds will be introduced at some point when the show returns in January. “There’s going to be a new visitor to our world named Gypsy,” said Valdes. “DC Comics fans will be familiar with Gypsy. She is going to be coming in our world and Vibe will definitely get to learn some new skills as part of getting to know her. So I’m excited to see how that plays out.” Based on Valdes’ comments, it’s safe to assume that they’ll be going with the New 52 incarnation of the character, who was a runaway from another dimension.
   Link:https://www.comicbookmovie.com/the_flash/the-flash-set-to-introduce-justice-league-detroit-member-gypsy-for-the-a147449  
2. ‘The Flash’ Casts ‘Sleepy Hollow’ Star Jessica Camacho to Play Gypsy (Exclusive) (Date: 14 Dec 2016)
   Gypsy is coming to “The Flash,” and she will be played by “Sleepy Hollow” actress Jessica Camacho, TheWrap has learned exclusively.
   Link:http://www.thewrap.com/the-flash-casts-jessica-camacho-to-play-gypsy/  
3. Protests end Wonder Woman’s fight for equality at United Nations (Date: 12 Dec 2016)
   A United Nations spokesman said the character’s role at the 193-member state organization would end on Friday despite plans for Wonder Woman to be used in an empowerment campaign for women and girls into 2017. The move came after the Oct. 21 appointment of the superhero to fight for gender equality sparked heavy criticism, with nearly 45,000 people signing an online petition asking U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon to reconsider selection of the character. “Although the original creators may have intended Wonder Woman to represent a strong and independent ‘warrior’ woman with a feminist message, the reality is that the character’s current iteration is that of a large breasted, white woman of impossible proportions,” the petition read. Dozens of U.N. employees protested at the U.N. headquarters in New York City on the day of the appointment when Diane Nelson, president of DC Entertainment, said the Wonder Woman campaign would feature various initiatives “over the course of the next year.” The U.N. did not provide further details as to why the Wonder Woman campaign was ending this week but spokesman Jeffrey Brez said campaigns using fictional characters often lasted no longer than a few months.
   Link:http://www.reuters.com/article/us-united-nations-women-wonder-woman-idUSKBN1412N9?il=0

NEXT EPISODE

Supergirl Mid-Season 2!

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Starling Tribune – Season 5 Edition – What We Leave Behind (A CW Network Arrow Television Show Fan Podcast)

The Official Arrow Podcast of the Gonna Geek Network

Episode:            “What We Leave Behind” [Season 5 Episode 9]

Air Date:           Wednesday, December 7, 2016

Director:      Antonio Negret

                   http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0624423/?ref_=tt_ov_dr

                   2x Legends of Tomorrow | 3x Arrow | 1x The Flash | 2x The 100

Writers:       Wendy Mericle

                   http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1355890/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr4

Showrunner for Arrow | 19x Arrow

Beth Schwartz

                   http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2584087/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr5

19x Arrow | 2x Legends of Tomorrow | 1x Hart of Dixie

Promo: https://www.comicbookmovie.com/tv/dc/arrow/there-are-lots-of-big-reveals-in-arrow-season-5-episode-9-promo-what-a147195   

Weekly Ratings

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 Legacy 5-Oct-16 1.89

02 The Recruits 12-Oct-16 1.94

03 A Matter Of Trust 19-Oct-16 1.79

04 Penance 26-Oct-16 1.87

05 Human Target 2-Nov-16 1.61

06 So It Begins 9-Nov-16 1.95

07 Vigilante 16-Nov-16 1.86

08 Invasion 30-Nov-16 3.55

09 What We Leave Behind 7-Dec-16 1.94

10 Who Are You TBD

11 Second Chances TBD

12 Bratva TBD

13 Spectre Of The Gun TBD

Part 1: The Plot, Themes and Characters

• What was the overall theme for this episode / What was the link to the ep. name
  • Actions from the past coming back to haunt you
    • Prometheus is the son of someone Ollie as The Hood killed
  • We have two legacies we leave behind – the good and the bad
• Fight scenes & Stunts: Share your thoughts
  • Prometheus attacks Curtis
    • Curtis gets some hits in. Not many
  • Prometheus and Ollie – round one
    • Prometheus has skills; does cool special flip (Ollie recognizes it; he learned it from a woman in Russia)
    • Wild Dog shoots weapon out of Prometheus’s hand, but Artemis shoots his guns
    • Prometheus disappears with Artemis
  • Prometheus and Ollie – round two
    • Action is cut with flashback from 4 years ago
    • Prometheus has dead bodies posed just like how Ollie killed them
      • Its super creepy and really helps to amp up the tension
      • Fight up escalator (flashback)
    • Prometheus able to escape; makes Billy Malone look and sound like him
      • Similar to the Joker’s hostages in The Dark Knight
• Flashbacks: Share your thoughts
  • 4 years ago – Ollie as The Hood
    • Killing people; The List
    • Diggle knows Ollie is The Hood
    • Ollie after Justin Claybourne, who manufactured weaponized TB in order to sell medicine for it
    • Diggle warns Ollie that his actions could have unintended consequences
    • Red pen! Felicity is awkward and cute when she helps Ollie find address (1852)
• Ollie:  
  • Has he learned after all this time?
  • Brings team to first fight w/Prometheus
  • Goes alone when find Prometheus again – why?
  • Being confronted with past makes him act like that again – he kills Prometheus instead of putting an arrow in his knee
  • Does he have to kill Prometheus?
  • Confesses to team the truth
  • First instinct is to push everyone away
  • The expression on his face when he sees HER in the Arrowcave
• Diggle
  • Active in flashback
  • Leads group hug at end when Ollie wants to push everyone away
  • Is called by Lyla to safe house
  • Is taken in by soldiers
• Thea
  • Feels as though the Dominators dream renewed her purpose
  • Tells Ollie that we leave good and bad legacies
  • Suits up as Speedy!
    • Is this a onetime thing after the reveal of Artemis’ betrayal?
• Felicity
  • Awkwardly introduces Billy to friends; suggest double date w/Ollie
  • Tells Billy not to investigate Prometheus; Billy does anyway because that’s his job
  • Billy sends her photo of baby – is looping her in on what he finds
  • Blames Prometheus for Billy’s death
• Quentin Lance
  • Not in episode
• Curtis
  • Has lied to husband Paul – doing a start up with Felicity
  • Tells hubby the truth – Paul gives ultimatum
  • Realizes being Mr. Terrific gives him purpose
  • Paul leaves b/c can’t see him go off every night and risk life
• Wild Dog
  • “I don’t like rules or listening”
  • Does the opposite Ollie instructs (maybe Ollie pulls an “opposite day” move)
  • Is he a father?
• Artemis
  • Gives Rene, Rory, and Diggle stockings with their code names
  • Says guys are her only family
  • Betrays Oliver because city needs protecting from him
• Ragman
  • Makes Flashpoint joke
  • Figures out how to sequence DNA
• D.A. Adrian Chase
  • Really wants Prometheus dealt with
  • Puts kill order on Prometheus
• Susan Williams
  • Ollie’s date to the Christmas party
  • Drinks Russian vodka
    • Russian writing on the bottle is centered on screen, is this a hint?
  • Tells Ollie shutting people out is not a good thing to do
  • Has sexytimes with Ollie
• Laurel
  • Is this due to Barry and Flashpoint?
  • Or maybe due to Legends of Tomorrow where Sara revealed Damian’s future so now he is travelling time to avert it.
• Bratva
  • Not in episode
• Prometheus
  • Leads? – A whole bunch
  • At least 30 years old
  • Justin Claybourne’s son – ????
    • Seems too easy if this is the case
  • Son not publicly known – mentioned in divorce papers
  • Has studied Oliver for four years
  • How does he(?) know that Ollie killed his father and studied fighting in Russia?
  • When did he(?) find out all of this about Ollie?
  • Is it Claybourne’s son? Could it be someone else who just knows about what Ollie has done when he was The Hood and was working off of The List?
  • Tied to The List
  • He sounds like Michael Dorn to Chris (reddit seems to agree)
  • Michelle’s List O’Suspects: (I’m keeping this active until the mask comes off)
    • Tommy Merlyn – Not likely now. In Ollie’s Dementor vision as someone proud of Ollie
    • New: Susan Williams – if the Claybourne son thing is a red herring; then it could be her; she is old enough, drinks Russian vodka, and has finally confirmed Ollie was in Russia. Maybe her real name isn’t SW
    • Robert Queen – too old? But is the author of The List. In Ollie’s Dementor vision as someone proud of Ollie.
    • New: It’s actually Claybourne’s son
    • Adrian Chase (but more likely to become Vigilante)
    • Billy Malone – dead
    • Helena Bertinelli (but I would rather see her as either Huntress or head of the Bertinelli family)
    • Isabel Rochev
    • Mckenna Hall
    • Shado – not Claybourne’s child and not really connected to The List
    • Slade Wilson – not tied to The List
    • Talia al Ghul (see this week’s news)
    • New: Quentin Lance (likely a red herring) (in rehab)
    • Roy – too young and in Ollie’s Dementor vision as someone proud of Ollie; also, not really tied to The List
    • Viktor (SP’s add) – too old
       

CURRENT EPISODE DC EASTER EGGS & POP CULTURE REFERENCES

Season Episode  “What We Leave Behind” (Date: 08 Dec 2016)
Article: http://comicbook.com/2016/12/08/arrow-easter-eggs-and-things-you-might-have-missed-in-the-season/     

1. JUDAS CONTRACT – A young, female team member who is recruited into Team Arrow and then seduced to the dark side and ends up becoming a sleeper agent for the villain is pretty much exactly the plot to the classic New Teen Titans storyline The Judas Contract.
2. OLIVER’S CHRISTMAS MOVIES – According to Stephen Amell’s recent Facebook Live video, he shares Oliver’s favorite Christmas movie (Die Hard) and the “Its true!” he delivered after saying so in the episode was actually a Stephen Amell-ism, not Oliver Queen’s.
   His second choice, It’s a Wonderful Life, is an interesting one considering…”I was very lucky to be able to rewatch that movie last week.”…which of course is not a thing that happened. He was  subjected to a kind of custom-made It’s a Wonderful Life, where the Dominators showed him a whole different timeline and how his life and the lives of those around him might be different if he had made different decisions.
3. BIG BELLY BURGER – The mention is because the to-go bag for the DC Universe’s favorite burger joint was the focus of a shot that hung on for a few seconds AND transitioned from the present day to the flashbacks. That’s a lot of camera time for a fast food container.
4. CLAYBOURNE – While Justin Claybourne’s name did in fact appear on The List, we never saw him dealt with in season 1 and all of the scenes here that were calling back to the first year of the series were entirely new material. This, of course, opens up the question of whether we might see some more such stories in flashbacks for future episodes…!
5. ALMOST EVERY WEDNESDAY – “People who are supposed to be dead turn out to be alive almost every Wednesday.” Weirdly enough never during the summer or between mid-December and late January, though.
6. THE HOOD – Oliver’s season 1 costume, the kill list, the sets, the mission, his arguments with Diggle…this is what it was like when he was The Hood and not Green Arrow.
7. THE RED PEN – The red pen is a nice callback to some of Felicity Smoak’s earliest appearances, and that makes it worth breaking out to talk separately about “IT Girl Felicity,” back when Oliver was still making up outlandish stories to get her help instead of just coming clean with her.
8. AK DESMOND PHARMACEUTICAL – It seems worth noting, since Dr. Alchemy is such a big part of The Flash this season, that A.K. Desmond Pharmaceutical could plausibly be considered a wink-and-a-nod reference to Albert Desmond, a chemist who would go on to become Dr. Alchemy in the comics. Unlikely, but possible!
9. MAKE THE CITY GREAT AGAIN – Obviously in his final moments, when Claybourne is trying to appeal to Oliver’s ideas about “saving the city,” he says that businesses like his can “make the city great again,” which in the context of the last years’ worth of public life feels suspiciously like a reference to Donald Trump’s “make America great again” campaign slogan.

ARROW NEWS:

1. ARROW FANS HAVE ALREADY SEEN SEASON 5’S FINAL SCENE — OR HAVE THEY? (Date: 05 Dec 2016)
   Now that “Arrow” has reached season five and has no plans of slowing down, the plan has changed slightly. As Guggenheim said, “Spoiler alert. That’s (Ollie’s rescue from Lian Yu) going to end up being the Season 5 finale.” Season five’s flashback story arc will still end by replaying the first moments of the series, but there’s now much more show to come after that moment in season six and beyond. But just because fans saw how season five will end five years ago doesn’t mean there aren’t surprises still ahead at the end of this season. Guggenheim added that the creators have “some incredibly clear plans for what we want to do in the Season 5 finale,” but that they always leave wiggle room for surprises and cliffhangers.
   Link:http://www.cbr.com/arrow-fans-have-already-seen-season-5s-final-scene-or-have-they/  
2. Arrow’s David Ramsey: “I Like The Idea Of Felicity Not Defining Herself Through Her Relationship With A Man” (Date: 04 Dec 2016)
   During the Arrow panel at the CCXP convention in Brazil, David Ramsey was asked to chime in on Olicity. “For me, I like the idea of Felicity not defining herself through her relationship with a man,” Ramsey told the crowd. “I like the idea that she can be her own person, and she can be strong and feminine, own the company, without pining over men — Oliver or any other man.”
   Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/12/05/arrows-david-ramsey-i-like-the-idea-of-felicity-not-defining-her/  
3. Stephen Amell Addresses The Big Twist In Arrow’s Midseason Finale (Date: 07 Dec 2016)
   In a Facebook video, Stephen Amell discussed the return of Laurel. Amell said that tonight’s script was the first in a long time that legitimately shocked him when he turned the page to that reveal. He also said that he was skeptical at first of the idea of bringing another character back from the dead, but that they’re now several episodes down the line in production and that he thinks the story that comes out of it is a good one.
   Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/12/08/stephen-amell-addresses-the-big-twist-in-arrows-midseason-finale/  

GENERAL DC TV NEWS

1. Four-Night DC Crossover Gives The CW Its Most-Watched Week In Six Years (Date: 06 Dec 2016)
   The four-night DC superhero crossover event is certainly paying off big for the CW, pulling in 2.3 million viewers for its most-watched week in six years. For the week of November 28, the CW was up 20% in total viewers versus the same week last year, up 15% in adults 18-49 (0.7 vs. 0.6) and up 16% in adults 18-34 (0.6 vs. 0.5), according to Nielsen stats. Supergirl had its most-watched (3.5M) episode of the season, and matched its season premiere ratings in both adults 18-34 (0.9/4) and adults 18-49 (1.1/4). The Flash saw its most-watched episode (4.15M) in almost two years (12/9/14) and its highest rated episode of the season. Arrow delivered the series’ most watched (3.55M) and highest-rated episode since last season’s crossover episode (12/2/15). And DC’s Legends of Tomorrow had its most-watched episode ever (3.39M) and its highest-rated episode ever in adults 18-34 (1.0/5).
   Link:http://deadline.com/2016/12/dc-crossover-the-cw-ratings-supergirl-arrow-the-flash-legends-of-tomorrow-the-flash-1201865656/   
2. MISTER MXYZPTLK TO MATERIALIZE ON SUPERGIRL (Date: 02 Dec 2016)
   com reports DC Comics supervillain Mister Mxyzptlk will bring his impish antics to the CW drama for two episodes in 2017.Created by writer Jerry Siegel and artist Ira Yarborough for 1944’s “Superman” #30, Mister Mxyzptlk is a mischievous imp from the fifth dimension who delights in tormenting the Man of Steel. More fun-loving prankster than straightforward villain, Mxyzptlk’s fifth-dimensional technology appears as magic to three-dimensional beings; the limits of his powers are vast and unknown. Famously, he can only be stopped and returned to his home dimension by tricking him into saying his name backward (“Kltpzyxm”).  
   Link:http://www.cbr.com/mister-mxyzptlk-to-materialize-on-supergirl/   
3. How “Supergirl” And A Super-Duper Gay Comic Book Clerk Helped Save A Girl’s Life (Date: 04 Dec 2016)
   Mary, a “super-duper gay” employee at a comic book shop in Indiana, shared an encounter she had with a young woman. The girl said she was suicidal because she’s gay, and she didn’t realize gay women could be happy until she saw the Alex Danvers coming out arc on Supergirl. To help the girl out through the hiatus, the employees suggested  Batwoman: Elegy, Midnighter, and Gotham Central. The girl didn’t have money for all of the titles, so the employee bought them for her.
   Link:http://www.newnownext.com/supergirl-lesbian-sanvers/12/2016/  
4. Mark Hamill and John Wesley Shipp On the Biggest Surprises Reprising Their Roles on The Flash (Date: 06 Dec 2016)
   Interesting fact: Shipp starred in The Flash in 1990 and 1991, with Hamill as a recurring villain. While Hamill was filming Star Wars: The Force Awakens, a new TV version of The Flash was coming together. Three years later, against all odds, he and the producers have found a way for Hamill to make an appearance as James Jesse in each midseason finale so far.
   Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/12/07/mark-hamill-and-john-wesley-shipp-on-the-biggest-surprises-repri/  
5. Supergirl Showrunners wanted to play with Shippers (Date: 3 Dec 2016)
   Producer Andrew Kreisberg revealed after a screening (h/t EW) that multiple moments with Kara were ultimately cut from the three episodes, including Sara asking out the Girl of Steel (and perhaps foreshadowing a future with Alex):
   There was a little exchange between Sara [Caity Lotz] and Kara [Melissa Benoist] that I really liked — I don’t think we even filmed it — where Sara says, ‘Hey, do you want to get a drink when this is all over?’ And Kara says, ‘I think you wanna meet my sister.’ Just the idea of starting the Sara/Alex [Chyler Leigh] shippers going …
   Link:http://comicsalliance.com/supergirl-legends-crossover-deleted-scenes/
6. Fallout from the Superhero Crossover (Date: 3 Dec 2016)
   WILL SUPERGIRL VISIT EARTH-1 AGAIN? | Now that Kara has a way to communicate and travel across Earths, crossovers are certainly “easier” to execute, Kreisberg says. “The next time we do it, it means it doesn’t necessarily have to be because Oliver and Barry need Kara; it could be because Kara needs them.” However, the EP notes that nothing is in the works, seeing as how “we just barely survived this one. So we’re not too concerned with what we’re going to try to do next year. But it just gives us another way to come at a story.”
   DOES THE WORLD KNOW ETs EXIST? | A line was cut for time, in which the G-man known as “Glasses” says, “‘Cover up what? A dozen weather satellites falling out of orbit?’” Guggenheim explains: “People see the ships, but no one ever really saw the Dominators. The way we’re sort of playing it going forward is that Glasses is good at his job, and when he says he’s going to cover it up, he’s going to cover it up.” Adds Kreisberg: “There’s a mention of it in The Flash, that the threat of aliens brought out all the crazies. But we’re sort of Doctor Who-ing it.”
   Link:http://tvline.com/2016/12/01/legends-of-tomorrow-recap-season-2-episode-7-crossover-dominators-return/

GREEN ARROW COMICS & TOY NEWS

1. X-MEN: GOLD AND BLUE ROSTERS AND CREATIVE TEAMS REVEALED (Date: 28 Nov 2016)
   X-Men: Gold will be written by Marc Guggenheim with art by Ardian Syaf. The phase-shifting Kitty Pryde at long-last will become an X-Men team leader, whose squad includes Storm, Colossus, Nightcrawler, Old Man Logan, and Rachel Grey. “Kitty is the right person to bring the X-Men into the future, to herald in the next era of the X-Men,” Guggenheim told us in a phone interview. “We are post the war with the Inhumans. The X-Men are sort of at a crossroads. They’re at a point where they are trying to decide, is there a future for the X-Men? And Kitty is very much of the mindset that there is a future for the X-Men and it’s a bright future.”  Guggenheim is best known as co-showrunner and writer on The CW’s Arrow and Legends of Tomorrow and previously worked on the adjectiveless X-Men book in 2014 featuring an all-female cast of characters.
   Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/11/28/x-men-gold-and-blue-rosters-and-creative-teams-revealed/

NEXT EPISODE

Promo for Next Week: Episode – “Who Are You” (Date: xx month year)
Article:Link (comicbookmovie.com)

Episode:   “Who Are You?” [Season 5 Episode 10]

Air Date:        Wednesday, January 25, 2017

Summary:      According to the clip on the app: Diggle is back in jail, but this time he vows to face the charges. Oliver and the team are looking for the mother of Claybourne’s child. Also, they have to ease Laurel back into present-day life.

Director:         Gregory Smith

Writers:          Ben Sokolowski and Brian Ford Sullivan

IMDB:   http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5584160/?ref_=ttep_ep10

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Starling Tribune – Season 5 Edition – Vigilante (A CW Network Arrow Television Show Fan Podcast)

The Official Arrow Podcast of the Gonna Geek Network

Episode:            “Invasion!” [Season 5 Episode 8]

Air Date:           Wednesday, November 30, 2016

Director:      James “Bam Bam” Bamford

                   http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0051466/?ref_=tt_ov_dr

                   5x Arrow | 1x Supergirl

Writers:       Marc Guggenheim (teleplay)

                   http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0973233/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr4

EP of Arrow | 11x Arrow (writer) | 7x Legends of Tomorrow

Wendy Mericle (teleplay)

                   http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1355890/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr5

Showrunner of Arrow | 19x Arrow

Greg Berlanti (story by)

                   http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0075528/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr6

EP of Arrow, The Flash, Legends of Tomorrow, and Supergirl | Story by: 19x Arrow, 10x Flash, 5x Supergirl, 4x Legends  

Promo: https://www.comicbookmovie.com/tv/dc/arrow/a-familiar-face-returns-in-arrow-season-5-episode-8-episode-100-promo-a147155  

Weekly Ratings

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 Legacy 5-Oct-16 1.89

02 The Recruits 12-Oct-16 1.94

03 A Matter Of Trust 19-Oct-16 1.79

04 Penance 26-Oct-16 1.87

05 Human Target 2-Nov-16 1.61

06 So It Begins 9-Nov-16 1.95

07 Vigilante 16-Nov-16 1.86

08 Invasion 30-Nov-16 3.55

09 What We Leave Behind 7-Dec-16

10 Who Are You TBD

11 Second Chances TBD

12 Bratva TBD

13 Spectre Of The Gun TBD

Part 1: The Plot, Themes and Characters

• What was the overall theme for this episode / What was the link to the ep. name
  • Part 2 of the Invasion! crossover
  • Ollie, Thea, Diggle, Sara and Ray captured by Dominators and are trapped in a shared hallucination
• Fight scenes & Stunts: Share your thoughts
  • BEST FIGHT EVER
    • Ollie v. Deathstroke
    • Sara v. Darhk
    • Thea v. Malcolm
    • Diggle v. Ghost (was it supposed to be Andy??)
    • Ray v. Mirakuru Soldier (That’s how his Fiancee died wasn’t it??)
    • Thea stab Malcolm, fires arrow at Sara, who catches arrow and stabs Darhk with it, Thea tosses Ollie bow, and Ollie shoots Deathstroke with arrow Malcolm hit him with at beginning of fight
  • Rene v. Cyberwoman (followed by Barry & Kara kinda beating her up in an unfair fight)
  • Flash and Supergirl team up on Cyberwoman
  • Diggle and Ollie v. “Deathstroke”
• Dominators
  • Saw a lot on ship
  • Chase escapees with a lot of ships
  • Took group to gather intel
  • Team rescued by Waverider
  • Have a weapon
  • On way to Earth
• Flashbacks: Share your thoughts
  • None
    • Well, we could consider that Episode 100 was one big flashback
• Ollie: 
  • Bat-checklist: Ollie is the tactician
  • Dream about if he didn’t go on Queen’s Gambit
  • Going to marry Laurel next day
  • First one to remember reality
  • Tempted to stay – wants to take QC job and elope with Laurel
  • Realizes he can’t stay – tearful goodbyes with parents
  • Thea wants to stay; didn’t become Arrow for the reward, did it because it was right; says bye to Thea 
  • After fight, tearful goodbye to Laurel
  • Before leaving dream, see loved ones; told many times in dream that parents would be proud, he’s a changed man, he’s grown up
  • Finds alien gun
• Diggle
  • The Hood – wore the outfit in season 1 
  • Starts to remember after Ollie visit (his Arrowcave has bad security too)
  • Figures out they need to go to Smoak Tech building to exit dream
• Thea
  • Dream: manages Verdant, happy
  • Wants to stay so she doesn’t lose family
  • Changes mind because the group is her family too 
• Felicity and the Nerd Army
  • Dream: engaged to Ray, Diggle’s sidekick
  • Part of the “Nerd Army” with Cisco and Curtis
  • Nerds try to hack alien tech, blows up first time
  • Is surprised group in space; uh, the Nerd Army should have looked there first – aliens and all that
  • Nerd Army contacts Waverider; Ray figures out why taken, recalls bit of Dominator dialogue, Gideon translates
• Quentin Lance
  • Dream: happy Dad
• Curtis
  • Part of the Nerd Army
  • Quotes movies – Cisco not impressed; 3PO processor – Star Wars reference
  • Disappointed Dominators are space monsters
  • Fawns over Flash / happy he got a Flash ride
  • Fawns over Supergirl
  • Happy to be hacking alien tech
• Wild Dog
  • He can do the salmon ladder! Shirtless!
  • Doesn’t like metahumans or aliens – they have powers of gods, but think they can dress up and do good
  • Doesn’t get a ride from Flash
  • Fights with Cyberwoman, then Flash and Supergirl save him, changes tune
  • Realizes Ollie would have decked him if he spoke to Ollie like he spoke to Supergirl and Flash
• Artemis
  • Absent
• Ragman
  • Thinks all is a divine plan
  • Recognizes that the Dominator language is based on Hebrew / Old Testament language – how convenient
  • Is honored to meet Flash and Supergirl
• D.A. Adrian Chase
  • Absent
• Susan Williams
  • Absent
• Bratva
  • Absent – unless Russian lady who worked for Queens is a secret member
• Prometheus
  • Leads? – None this week
  • Michelle’s List O’Suspects: (Being bold by eliminating some this week due to developments)
    • Tommy Merlyn
    • Robert Queen
    • Adrian Chase (but more likely to become Vigilante)
    • Billy Malone (he “heard on the street” that Prometheus was a threat to the Arrow; very eager to learn where Green Arrow lives)
    • Helena Bertinelli (but I would rather see her as either Huntress or head of the Bertinelli family)
    • Isabel Rochev
    • Mckenna Hall
    • Shado
    • Slade Wilson (being Deathstroke right away could give his plan away)
    • Talia al Ghul (see this week’s news)
    • New: Quentin Lance (likely a red herring) (in rehab)
    • Roy (he’s been mentioned, he’s had access to arrows, and he might have seen The List) 
    • Viktor (SP’s add; he did see the list – shown in the season premiere) 
• SUPERGIRL: “Medusa”
  • Stefan Pleszczynski – director; writers: Jessica Queller and Derek Simon
  • Imdb link: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5957644/?ref_=ttep_ep8
    Recap: http://www.cbr.com/supergirl-recap-luthors-henshaws-space-time-continuum/
  • Thanksgiving episode
  • Medusa virus developed by Kara’s father designed virus to kill all non-Kryptonians; altered by Cadmus to kill all aliens
  • Alex and Maggie finally kiss
  • Portal appears 3 times; Barry and Cisco come through the last one into Kara’s apartment
  • Barry says Cisco is his friend, but Cisco says they’re coworkers
• THE FLASH: “Invasion!”
  • Dermott Downs – director; story by Greg Berlanti and Andrew Kreisberg; teleplay by Aaron Helbing and Todd Helbing
  • Imdb link: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5584134/?ref_=tt_eps_cu_n
  • Recap:http://comicbook.com/dc/2016/11/30/the-flashrecap-with-spoilers-invasion-/
  • Barry got scolded by entire team about messing with the timeline
  • Message from future: Hey younger Barry, you messed up the future too, you selfish dumb dumb
  • Supergirl meets team
  • Train against Supergirl
  • Dominators mind control
  • Heroes fight each other. Yes, it’s cool, but we’ve seen this trope too many times
  • Barry angers Supergirl to get her to destroy machine
  • Ollie’s speech to Barry
• LEGENDS OF TOMORROW: “Invasion!”
  • Gregory Smith – director; story by Greg Berlanti; teleplay by Phil Klemmer and Marc Guggenheim
  • Imdb link: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5584108/?ref_=ttep_ep_cur
  • Recap: http://comicbook.com/2016/12/02/legends-of-tomorrow-recap-with-spoilers-invasion-/
  • THOUGHTS
    • Best part of the crossover?
    • Earth’s Mightiest Heros – My earth could use a Supergirl. Mine could use an oliver queen
    • Stein’s kid.  New recurring character.
    • Diggle with the best piece of advice “It’s like I keep telling this guy, you have to forgive yourself”
    • Cisco’s device to communicate and cross over
    • You look like the star spangled idiot
    • She’s Hot? Yup.
    • Barry and Ollie drinking.  Great friendship.  Damn.
    • Not a lot of Dominators. Not a lot of Supergirl. Why was she even there?
• INVASION! – DC comic book series – skip so we can push ahead. Dedicated show in the future
  • Three-part comic book series published from late 1988 to early 1989
  • Writers: Keith Giffen and Bill Mantlo; pencillers: Todd McFarlane and Bart Sears; inkers: P. Craig Russell, Al Gordon, and Dick Giordano; colorist: Carl Gafford
  • Plot: the alien race the Dominators form an alliance and attack Earth with the goal of ridding Earth of all of its metahumans and superpowered people
  • Invasion stopped, but a young Dominator develops a Gene Bomb, which causes all meta-humans to lose control of their powers
  • A group led by Martian Manhunter finds a cure
    Comparison to TV adaptation:
    • There is no way the TV version can be as grand because the TV universe doesn’t have as many metahumans and supers as the comic
    • Started with aliens in comic, so know their motivation, but it took a long time to learn their motivation in the adaptation 

CURRENT EPISODE DC EASTER EGGS & POP CULTURE REFERENCES

Season 5 Episode 8 “Invasion!” (Date: 01 Dec 2016)
Article: http://comicbook.com/dc/2016/12/01/arrow-easter-eggs-and-things-you-might-have-missed-in-invasion-/   

1. Running – Stephen Amell said, “The hundredth episode of Arrow begins in a very appropriate way: it begins with Oliver running. We’ve had him running into the premiere almost every year, we didn’t have him running in this year, but we have him running in the hundredth episode.”
2. Dinah Laurel Lance – Full-naming your fiancee while doing cutesy talk isn’t entirely unheard-of, but here it’s a nice little reminder that, yes, Laurel is actually Dinah Lance from the comics, the longtime Justice League and Birds of Prey member known as the Black Canary. Laurel’s necklace is the Black Canary logo from the comics
3. Oliver and Company – The reference, in case you missed it the first hundred times we used it or when Cisco explained it this week, is to a Disney animated film from the ’80s. It was a musical comedy about a group of streetwise dogs who take in a small, orange cat, in which the soundtrack was primarily driven by Billy Joel, whose biggest fan is probably Arrow EP Marc Guggenheim. Per Guggenheim, he made the Oliver and Company joke in the script, but it was actor Carlos Valdes who added the Billy Joel nod.
4. The Hozen – In the pilot, Oliver gave Thea a Hōzen (宝箭) — an arrowhead-shaped stone he found around the neck of a dead Japanese soldier on Lian Yu. In the pilot, he told her — as she tells him this week — that in Japanese Buddhism, the hōzen symbolizes reconnecting.
5. Palmer’s Buyout Offer – The Palmer Technologies buyout of Queen Consolidated came in season 3 of the TV show, but apparently here, Palmer was hovering around Queen as soon as he heard Robert Queen was thinking of stepping down.
6. Van Horn Industries – Van Horn Industries is the name of a company owned by the family of Andrew Van Horn, a superhero known as Gunfire. Gunfire was created during the Bloodlines attack, a ’90s attempt to create a bunch of new superheroes by giving them a common starting point: an alien invasion where some of the victims of parasitic, cannibalistic aliens survived and gained powers.
7. Hood Sketch – Along with Diggle under the hood, we get a look at the original Hood sketch and newspaper clippings that made up part of the Starling City Police Department’s Rip Hunter-style chalkboard looking for the Arrow in season 1.
8. MY NAME IS OLIVER QUEEN – When Oliver starts to introduce himself, he goes with “My name is Oliver Queen,” just like he does in the voice over at the start of nearly every episode. Felicity hilariously cuts him off with “everyone knows who you are.” Which serves the story — he’s a famous, wealthy socialite — and the meta-text of the episode.
9. CHICAGO MED – That roundabout thing about how Tommy is a doctor in Chicago now, and he just couldn’t break away from his long shifts to come visit for the wedding? That’s a whole lot of meta, talking about actor Colin Donnell, who played Tommy in season 1 and has periodically come back in flashbacks and other such stories. Donnell couldn’t come for the hundredth episode because he’s now a regular on Chicago Med, which is in production and couldn’t spare him.
10. THE PATH NOT TAKEN – This story seem familiar? Like last year’s Supergirl episode “For the Girl Who Has Everything,” or the “Flashpoint” episode of The Flash? What about “Perchance to Dream” from Batman: The Animated Series?
11. THE FERN – It came back! Was seen when Ollie enters Diggle’s Arrowcave

ARROW NEWS:

1. Heroes & Villains Fan Fest: Arrow Cast Panel Recap (Date: 19 Nov 2016)
   Highlights from the Arrow panel include: David Ramsey thankful he has a new helmet, Willa Holland misses wearing the Speedy outfit, and John Jr. is suppose to tie into the Conner Hawke storyline.
   Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/11/19/heroes-villains-fan-fest-arrows-stephen-amell-panel-recap/   
2. Arrow’s Stephen Amell Wants To Play A Villain (Date: 22 Nov 2016)
   com had the chance to hear Amell speak in Atlanta at Heroes & Villains Fan Fest, and it was there that the actor shared his nefarious dreams. “Having lived in the hero’s shoes for a moment, I would say I’d like to play a…famous and memorable villain,” he said, “in the vein of Hans Gruber or Hannibal Lector.”
   Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/11/22/arrows-stephen-amell-wants-to-play-a-villain-2/  
3. STEPHEN AMELL HAS BEEN IN CONTACT WITH AMERICAN NINJA WARRIOR (Date: 26 Nov 2016)
   “They’ve reached out to me to do ‘American Ninja Warrior,’” he said at a Heroes & Villains Fan Fest convention panel, according to ComicBook.com. “We’ll see. One of the things that I’m learning now as someone that has a big responsibility at the head of a television show and has some business interests and is a husband and a father– priorities not being in that order — I don’t want to stretch myself too thin, and I wouldn’t want to do something if I couldn’t put my heart and soul into it.”
   Link:http://www.cbr.com/stephen-amell-has-been-in-contact-with-american-ninja-warrior/?utm_source=CBR-TW&utm_medium=Social-Distribution&utm_campaign=CBR-TW&view=list  
4. ARROW & PROMETHEUS HAVE AN EXPLOSIVE CONFRONTATION IN NEW PHOTOS (Date: 23 Nov 2016)
   Team “Arrow” is in deep trouble. In “What We Leave Behind,” the episode following the “Invasion!” crossover, Oliver discovers that Prometheus knows his and his fellow vigilantes’ secret identities. What follows is an explosive confrontation between Green Arrow and his mysterious foe. The photos below show Green Arrow and Prometheus coming to blows, but Oliver is not alone. He has a little help from Spartan and Wild Dog, and it looks like they’re going to fight fire with fire.
   Link:http://www.cbr.com/arrow-prometheus-have-an-explosive-confrontation-in-new-photos/?utm_source=CBR-TW&utm_medium=Social-Distribution&utm_campaign=CBR-TW&view=list  
5. Arrow Boss Marc Guggenheim Reflects on 100 Episodes, Favorite Moments — Plus, What’s Still on His ‘To-Do’ List? (Date: 29 Nov 2016)
   In the photo gallery above right, Marc Guggenheim shares favorite memories and musings from the past 100 episodes — Which casting was a “happy accident”? What stunt still wows him? Did “Olicity” happen too soon? — as well as offers some behind-the-scenes secrets.
   Link:http://tvline.com/2016/11/29/arrow-episode-100-marc-guggenheim-favorite-moments-casting-olicity/  
6. Arrow boss previews Matrix-esque 100th episode (Date: 29 Nov 2016)
   EW interviewed Marc Guggenheim about Arrow’s 100th episode and the series so far. Guggenheim admits to having some regrets: “The truth is, I don’t think I’ve ever been involved with an hour of television on any show where there hasn’t been something I wanted to take back,” he says. “Doing 23 episodes a year, you’re just constantly running, so nothing ever turns out exactly the way you want it to. In other words, my list of regrets is actually incredibly long; it’s 100 episodes long. I’d say probably my biggest regret is I wish we had allowed the Oliver-Felicity storyline in season 4 to unfold at a more natural pace. We had set these tentpoles at the beginning of the season, and we were a bit too rigorous on how we hit them. That was a case where the planning overtook the storytelling. We didn’t do things as naturally and as elegantly as we should have.”
   Link:http://www.ew.com/article/2016/11/29/arrow-100-episode-spoilers  
7. ‘Arrow’ EP Marc Guggenheim On Tonight’s 100th Episode, CW’s Mega-Crossover & What’s Next (Date: 30 Nov 2016)
   Reflecting on Arrow’s future and past, as well as the labyrinth and rewards of the multi-show saga, Guggenheim spoke with Deadline about how “Invasion” came together as a crossover and a stand-alone episode of the Vancouver-filmed show. The EP, who developed the show with Greg Berlanti and Andrew Kreisberg, also hinted at where things could go next for the archer and his team as Arrow heads towards next week’s Season 5 winter finale, who we may see more of from the show’s past, and what the next crossover could be like.
   Link:http://deadline.com/2016/11/arrow-100-episodes-invasion-cw-crossover-marc-guggenheim-1201862283/  
8. Arrow Hits Season High Ratings During 100th Episode (Date: 01 Dec 2016)
   In a report by Deadline, the site has confirmed Arrow hit a season-high rating last night of 1.3/5. The episode drew in 86% more viewers ages 18-49 than it did on November 16. The episode was a tenth down from last year’s superhero crossover special, but its viewership was still impressive. More than 3.52 million people watched the episode.
   Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/12/01/arrow-hits-season-high-ratings-during-100th-episode/

GENERAL DC TV NEWS

1. SUPERGIRL’S BRENDA STRONG ON UNLEASHING LILLIAN LUTHOR’S WRATH (Date: 22 Nov 2016)
   com interviewed Brenda Strong who currently plays Lillian Luthor, Lex’s mother, on Supergirl. In the interview, when asked about Lillian’s means justifying the end, she said, “That is such a great moral question. Everybody could ask themselves that and come up with a whole slew of different answers. It just goes back to the question of, when is it right to do the wrong thing? That opens up a whole can of worms about good and evil, black and white. Where’s the gray? Ultimately, she isn’t crazy, but she’s definitely committed to the end. It does justify the means for her. Obviously, she’s been willing to sacrifice any kind of personal relationships with this single-minded focus. There are costs for this character to achieve her commitment.”

   Link:http://www.cbr.com/brenda-strong-talks-supergirl/  

2. SUPERGIRL: MEHCAD BROOKS COMPARES JAMES OLSEN’S GUARDIAN TO BATMAN (Date: 28 Nov 2016)
   During a recent set visit, Brooks told CBR and other reporters that James’ CatCo position has made him more like the Dark Knight. “I kind of liken it to Bruce Wayne, running an enterprise during the day and then at night putting on the sleek black suit and your costume,” he explained. “James in the DC Universe has seen examples of it before, right? He’s never had to do it himself. Yeah, I think he was ready for both of those responsibilities anyway, so now he’s handling it well, but at first not so much.” He also discusses the suit, why James is reluctant to tell Kara, and why he thinks Superman would approve.
   Link: http://www.cbr.com/supergirl-mehcad-brooks-compares-james-olsens-guardian-to-batman/   
3. DC TV Crossover Featurette Includes Revealing New Behind The Scenes Footage And Interviews (Date: 28 Nov 2016)
   It doesn’t reveal any major details we probably haven’t already heard, but the video still provides a fascinating insight into how this crossover became a reality, and it sounds like a logistical nightmare!
   Link:https://www.comicbookmovie.com/tv/dc/the_flash/dc-tv-crossover-featurette-includes-revealing-new-behind-the-a147129  
4. THE DOMINATORS SET FOR POST-CROSSOVER APPEARANCE ON SUPERGIRL (Date: 28 Nov 2016)
   The crossover between four of The CW’s DC Comics-based shows is now unfolding, but no matter the outcome, it’s been confirmed that the alien race at the center of the story will return — later this season on “Supergirl,” though it’s not yet known when or under what context. “This is not the last you’ve seen of The Dominators,” Andrew Kreisberg, an executive producer on “Supergirl,” “The Flash,” “Arrow” and “DC”s Legends of Tomorrow,” told a group of press including CBR during a Q&A Monday at The CW’s Burbank headquarters. “The Dominators will return on ‘Supergirl’ later this season.”
   Link:http://www.cbr.com/the-dominators-set-for-post-crossover-appearance-on-supergirl/?utm_source=CBR-TW&utm_medium=Social-Distribution&utm_campaign=CBR-TW&view=list  
5. Supergirl Ratings Soar As Crossover Begins (Date: 29 Nov 2016)
   The CW’s four-part “Heroes vs. Aliens” DC Comics television crossover event got off to a solid rating start with this week’s episode of Supergirl. The episode, titled “Medusa,” scored a solid 1.1 rating in the core 18-49 demographic, and was watched by 3.51 million viewers in total. That an uptick from last week’s episode of Supergirl that puts the ratings for “Medusa” on par with the second season premiere of Supergirl.
   Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/11/29/supergirl-ratings-soar-as-crossover-begins/  
6. THE FLASH: MARK HAMILL, JOHN WESLEY SHIPP RETURN IN NEW PHOTOS (Date: 29 Nov 2016)
   In “The Present,” next week’s episode of “The Flash,” Barry Allen will pay a little visit to Jay Garrick (John Wesley Shipp) — and that means crossing over into Earth-3. New photos from the episode reveal a first look at Jay’s world as well as Earth-3’s version of James Jesse (Mark Hamill), better known as the Trickster on Barry’s world.
   Link:http://www.cbr.com/the-flash-mark-hamill-john-wesley-shipp-return-in-new-photos/?utm_source=CBR-TW&utm_medium=Social-Distribution&utm_campaign=CBR-TW&view=list  
7. THE FLASH HITS SEASON-HIGH RATINGS THANKS TO ARROWVERSE CROSSOVER (Date: 30 Nov 2016)
   When the second installment of “Invasion!” arrived on “The Flash”, 4.09m viewers tuned in to see it, making it the show’s most-watched episode since Season 1’s “The Man in the Yellow Suit,” which aired on December 9, 2014. “Invasion!” achieved a 1.2/5 rating in the adults 18-34 demographic and a 1.5/5 in adults 18-49, something the show hasn’t done since last season.
   Link:http://www.cbr.com/the-flash-hits-season-high-ratings-thanks-to-arrowverse-crossover/  
8. Matt Ryan Has A Message For Constantine Fans (Date: 24 NOv 2016)
   Over the weekend, Ryan appeared at Heroes & Villains Fan Fest, alongside several actors from Arrow and The Flash. ComicBook.com had the chance to catch up with the actor regarding a potential future for his role as Constantine.”Never say never, right?” Ryan said. It was the best he could offer, not knowing whether or not fans should actually expect to see Constantine pop up on television again.He does, however, has a message for those fans.”I’d just like to say ‘Thank you fans for all the support you’ve given me from playing this character. It’s such an iconic role and to have you guys support me is just a fantastic thing so thank you very, very much.”
   Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/11/24/matt-ryan-has-a-message-for-constantine-fans/

GREEN ARROW COMICS & TOY NEWS

1. X-MEN: GOLD AND BLUE ROSTERS AND CREATIVE TEAMS REVEALED (Date: 28 Nov 2016)
   X-Men: Gold will be written by Marc Guggenheim with art by Ardian Syaf. The phase-shifting Kitty Pryde at long-last will become an X-Men team leader, whose squad includes Storm, Colossus, Nightcrawler, Old Man Logan, and Rachel Grey. “Kitty is the right person to bring the X-Men into the future, to herald in the next era of the X-Men,” Guggenheim told us in a phone interview. “We are post the war with the Inhumans. The X-Men are sort of at a crossroads. They’re at a point where they are trying to decide, is there a future for the X-Men? And Kitty is very much of the mindset that there is a future for the X-Men and it’s a bright future.”  Guggenheim is best known as co-showrunner and writer on The CW’s Arrow and Legends of Tomorrow and previously worked on the adjectiveless X-Men book in 2014 featuring an all-female cast of characters.
   Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/11/28/x-men-gold-and-blue-rosters-and-creative-teams-revealed/

NEXT EPISODE

Promo for Next Week’s: Episode – “What We Leave Behind” (Date: 17 Nov 2016)
Article:https://www.comicbookmovie.com/tv/dc/arrow/there-are-lots-of-big-reveals-in-arrow-season-5-episode-9-promo-what-a147195  

Episode:   “What We Leave Behind” [Season 5 Episode 9]

Air Date:        Wednesday, December 7, 2016

Summary:      PROMETHEUS MAKES A DEADLY MOVE AGAINST OLIVER AND THE TEAM — After Prometheus attacks Curtis (Echo Kellum), Oliver (Stephen Amell) realizes Prometheus knows all of Team Arrow’s secret identities and is planning to come for them one by one. Felicity (Emily Bett Rickards) and Detective Malone (guest star Tyler Ritter) discover a clue that links Prometheus to Oliver’s past.

Director:         Antonio Negret

Writers:          Wendy Mericle & Beth Schwartz

IMDB:   http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5584158/?ref_=ttep_ep9

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