Starling Tribune – Season 5 Edition – A Matter Of Trust (A CW Network Arrow Television Show Fan Podcast)

The Official Arrow Podcast of the Gonna Geek Network

Episode:          “A Matter of Trust” [Season 5  Episode 3]

Air Date:          Wednesday, October 19, 2016

Director:     Gregory Smith

                   http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0808376/?ref_=tt_ov_dr

                   5x Arrow | 3x Legends of Tomorrow

Writers:      Ben Sokolowski

                   http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2408940/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr4

16x Arrow | 2x The Flash

Emilio Ortega Aldrich

                   http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3598136/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr5

6x Arrow

Promo: https://www.comicbookmovie.com/dc_tv/arrow/arrow-season-5-episode-3-promo-a-matter-of-trust-a145949  

Weekly Ratings

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 Legacy 5-Oct-16 1.89

02 The Recruits 5-Oct-16 1.94

03 A Matter Of Trust 5-Oct-16 1.79

04 Penance 5-Oct-16

05 Human Target 2-Nov-16

06 So It Begins 9-Nov-16

07 Vigilante 16-Nov-16

08 Invasion 30-Nov-16

09 What We Leave Behind 7-Dec-16

Part 1: The Plot, Themes and Characters

• What was the overall theme for this episode / What was the link to the ep. name
  • People in teams need to trust each other
    • Green Arrow needs to trust Wild Dog and the rest of his team
    • Mayor Queen needs to trust Thea
    • Ollie has to trust Anatoly when it comes to the Bratva
• Fight scenes & Stunts: Share your thoughts
  • Sampson/Stardust is just brutal
  • Final fight
    • Severing the tendons was badass
    • Slow mo explosion walkaway???  
    • Everyone does it in Superhero shows might be overplayed.  Smallville was the worst about it though.
• Flashbacks: Share your thoughts
  • Not all is what it seems in Bratva
    • Ollie has to learn to trust Anatoly and Bratva
• Ollie:  
  • This is all about him learning to trust his teams and step up as mayor
• Diggle
  • In prison – sees vision of Deadshot (nice swerve to make us think he’s back due to Flashpoint)
  • Guilt about brother’s death
  • Tells Lyla to tell John Jr. that he loves him
  • Doesn’t want anyone to break him out of jail
• Thea
  • Admits to messing up
  • Gets played by reporter
  • Tells reporter that she won’t get played again
• Felicity
  • Tells Ollie that he needs to step up as a leader
  • Is able to teach the team how Ollie works
  • Listens to Curtis and tells Rory
• Quentin Lance
  • Back on the wagon?
  • Will his stay sober and be effective as deputy mayor?
  • Deputy Mayor – Michelle Called it
• Curtis
  • Mr. Terrific is his idol
  • Is the voice of reason – tells Felicity she has to tell Rory about Havenrock
  • Suits up – has a “T” for a mask
  • Calls it “The Arrowcave”
• Wild Dog
  • Goes off on own – “kills” Derek Sampson/Stardust; hurts DA case
  • Realizes trust has to go both ways
• Artemis
  • Has a mask
  • She’s not doing much yet
• Ragman / Rory
  • Walks away when Felicity tells him the truth
• Tobias Church
  • In control of the city
• Prometheus
  • Detective Billy Malone (Felicity’s BF) lures Ollie to tell him that Prometheus wants to kill the Green Arrow
• Bratva
  • Anatoly tells Ollie that he needs Bratva to be his army against Kovar
• Arrow Cave is canon now!
• D.A. Adrian Chase
  • Meet for first time
  • Met Ollie 12 year ago – GF went home with Ollie
  • Pleased that Green Arrow got Samson
• Derek Sampson
  • Cody Rhodes was pretty good.
  • He’s small in the WWE world but he and Amell paired up well in fight scenes. Makes you realize in pro-wrestling he might be small but in life he’s a big dude

 CURRENT EPISODE DC EASTER EGGS & POP CULTURE REFERENCES

 Season Episode  “A Matter of Trust” (Date:20 Oct 2016)
Article:http://comicbook.com/2016/10/20/arrow-easter-eggs-and-other-things-you-might-have-missed-in-a-ma/  

1. “A Matter of Trust” is the name of a Billy Joel song; Marc Guggenheim is a huge Billy Joel song. The song’s title happens to fit this episode’s theme.
2. Stardust –  Stardust, the name of the drug in this week’s episode, has some special resonance for guest star Cody Runnels, also known as Cody Rhodes, the WWE Superstar formerly known as Stardust.
3. Cody Runnels – He’s Runnels here, not Rhodes, in the opening credits.That’s likely because he doesn’t actually own the trademark to “Cody Rhodes,” his stage name with the WWE. Since Rhodes’s father was Dusty Rhodes, he and his brother took on the family name when they came into professional wrestling. Now that he’s no longer a member of the WWE family, he might not have easy access to his actual family’s stage name.
4. John Jr, – This is the first on-camera reference to John Diggle, Jr. in Arrow. Last week on The Flash, fans learned that John Diggle, friend and former bodyguard to Oliver Queen, has a son — and that was a surprise. That’s right: Barry Allen’s excellent “Flashpoint” adventure through time created the unintended consequence of giving John Diggle a son — John Diggle, Jr. — rather than the daughter — Sara Diggle — fans got to know after she was born in season 3 of the hit CW drama.
5. Deadshot – Deadshot, a member of the Suicide Squad and the deadly assassin long thought to have murdered John Diggle’s brother, showed up in a vision to Dig this week, haunting him for killing Andy himself last season.
6. Susan Williams – Susan Williams is, in the comics, the sister-in-law of Hal Jordan, one of Earth’s Green Lanterns. Created by John Broome and Gil Kane in the early days of the Silver Age Green Lantern titles, Susan was a bit of a rabble-rouser then, too; she ended up in a relationship with one of the Jordan brothers while digging around into who Green Lantern was.
7. Falling into a vat of chemicals is similar to the origin of the Joker
8. Adrian Chase – Adrian Chase is introduced this week. The hot-headed, good-looking district attorney is actually better known as Vigilante in the comics.Created during Marv Wolfman’s time on the New Teen Titans, Vigilante in the comics is a former New York district attorney who’s set on the path of justice after his family is killed by the mob. The CW describes him similarly: Chase is “Star City’s new district attorney and an ally of Mayor Oliver Queen (Stephen Amell), who aims to clean up the streets through the legal system.”
9. “You have failed this city” make an appearance – like season 1
10. Lethal Weapon – Stardust burns his arm
11. Terry Sloane – This week, we finally got to see Curtis suit up, going into the field in his Mister Terrific costume for the first time. He hasn’t yet identified himself using the “Mister Terrific” name, although he did namecheck Terry Sloane — the Golden Age Mr. Terrific from the comics — as his inspiration (and the inspiration for the “Fair Play” jacket he wears).
12. Trope of cool guy walking toward camera with explosion in background
13. Oliver thinking Wild Dog’s hockey mask is “cool” is likely a reference to Amell’s role of Casey Jones in ‘Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows.’
14. Curtis calls it the “Arrowcave”

ARROW NEWS:

1. Arrowverse Crossover is ‘very, very faithful’ to DC’s Invasion!  (Date: 14 Oct 2016)
   Marc Guggenheim promises that the crossover will be faithful to the story in the comics. In the comics, the Dominators assemble a coalition of extraterrestrial races to invade Earth, with the goal of eliminating the threat posed by metahumans. Unknown to their allies, the Dominators intend to harness the metagene and create their own army of metahumans. Guggenheim says that the crossover will be “just big, bombastic, huge action.”
   Link:http://www.cbr.com/arrowverse-crossover-is-very-very-faithful-to-dcs-invasion/  
2. Who are the Dominators? The Arrowverse crossover villains explained (Date: 15 Oct 2016)
   This article is a good look at the villains of the upcoming crossover between “Arrow,” “The Flash,” “Legends of Tomorrow.” and “Supergirl.”
   Link:http://www.cbr.com/who-are-the-dominators-arrowverses-crossover-villains-explained/  
3. Arrow’s ‘Human Target’ synopsis calls in Christopher Chance  (Date: 15 Oct 2016)
   The November 2nd episode is titled “Human Target.” In this episode, Oliver will call an old friend for help. Wil Traval (Jessica Jones) will play Christopher Chance, aka the Human Target, a private investigator and bodyguard who assumes the identities of clients mark for assassination. This is not the Human Target’s first TV appearance. Rick Springfield starred as Christopher Chance on a short-lived drama that aired in 1992 on ABC, and FOX aired its adaptation in 2011, which starred Mark Valley (John Scott on Fringe).
   Link:http://www.cbr.com/arrows-human-target-synopsis-calls-in-christopher-chance/  
4. The Comic Book history of Ragman (Date: 17 Oct 2016)
   Bleeding Cool takes an in-depth look at the long and complex history of Ragman.
   Link:http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/10/17/comic-book-history-ragman/  
5. ‘Arrow’ boss on Diggle’s dire predicament (Date: 10 Oct 2016)
   Diggle will soon discover that Chechnya is the wrong place to find his moral compass, leading to Diggle’s return to Star City. Diggle’s storyline will carry into episode 12, so it will be a major part of the season.
   Link:http://www.ew.com/article/2016/10/18/arrow-diggle-arrested-spoilers?xid=entertainment-weekly_socialflow_twitter  
6. Guggenheim reveals Captain Cold’s ‘Legends’ return, talks ‘Arrow’s’ 100th episode (Date: 18 Oct 2016)
   Marc Guggenheim discusses Captain Cold’s return to ‘Legends,’ which will be in that show’s midseason finale, episode 208, but how he returns hasn’t been revealed. Also, Cold will be part of the Legion of Doom. The 100th episode of ‘Arrow’ promises to be big with appearances by John Barrowman as Merlin and Neal McDonough as Damian Darhk; the 100th episode will also be part of the big crossover, but Guggenheim says that the 100th will be ‘Arrow’-centric.
   Link:http://www.cbr.com/guggenheim-reveals-captain-colds-legends-of-tomorrow-return-talks-arrows-100th-episode/  

DC TV NEWS

1. Michelle Legends of Tomorrow ratings dip for season 2 premiere (Date: 14 Oct 2016)
   Season two premiere of Legends has suffered a dip, scoring just a 0.6 in the key 18-49 demographic and 1.84 million viewers. However, the show was up against football and MLB’s World Series
   Link:http://www.cbr.com/legends-of-tomorrow-ratings-dip-for-season-2-premiere/
2. Michelle The Flash EP describes Caitlin Snow’s relationship with her mom (Date: 15 Oct 2016)
   Flash spoiler: In an upcoming episode, we will meet Caitlin’s mother, Dr. Tannhauser (guest star Susan Walters), a renowned biomedical researcher. Caitlin will seek out her mother’s help as she continues to transform into Killer Frost.
   Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/10/15/the-flash-ep-describes-caitlin-snows-relationship-with-her-mom/   
3. Michelle Supergirl EP on whether Cat Grant knows Kara’s secret identity (Date: 18 Oct 2016)
   Article discusses if Cat knows if Supergirl is Kara. It also covers why the writers have backed off from the Jimmy/Kara romance, how Kara’s new boss, Snapper Carr is different from Cat, and the tension between Mon-El and Kara.
   Link:http://www.cbr.com/supergirl-ep-on-whether-cat-grant-knows-karas-secret-identity/  
4. Chris Mirror Master debuts in new Flash promo (Date: 19 Oct 2016)
   The Rogues are back for next week’s episode of “The Flash” — or the “New Rogues,” — as the episode is titled. “Star Crossed” actor Grey Damon makes his DC Comics debut as the infamous Mirror Master. The Top, played by Ashley Rickards, will also be appearing, alongside the very familiar, very missed face of Captain Cold. When Mirror Master and The Top go looking for Cold, they’ll run into a little trouble with The Flash and his new speedster-in-training, Jesse Quick.
   Link:http://www.cbr.com/mirror-master-debuts-in-new-flash-promo/  
5. Chris How Supergirl gets into the Crossover (Date: 20 Oct 2016)
   The 100th episode will, in fact, be part 3 of that crossover, and executive producer Marc Guggenheim recently spoke to Collider on how Supergirl is fitting in with the Arrowverse.  “Last year, Supergirl established that The Flash was able to make his way to what I call Earth-CBS, and it stands to reason that with the proper breach technology, the reverse can happen. Once the heroes realize that they’re up against aliens, they decide that they need an alien on their side and, fortunately, Barry knows a really nice one. I don’t think it’s a big shock that, between Barry and Cisco, and all of their experiences with Earth-2 and the multi-verse, that they can pluck her from Earth-CBS.”
   Link: http://comicbook.com/2016/10/20/how-arrow-episode-100-fits-inside-the-supergirl-crossover/

6. Chris Mark Hamill Dressed Like The Joker on Flash Set? (Date: 20 Oct 2016)
   Hamill was spotted on the set of The Flashl ooking decidedly Joker-esque. Considering that Flash is currently exploring an alternate timeline in its “Flashpoint” season, it’s possible this is a Joker inspired alternate version of the Trickster. Or maybe, just maybe, many fans will get their wish and finally see Hamill take the role of the Clown Prince of Crime into live action.
   Link:http://www.newsarama.com/31656-why-is-mark-hamill-dressed-like-the-joker-on-the-set-of-the-flash.html

7. Michelle Hot Topic’s New DC-Based Jackets Look Sort of Great (Date:20 Oct 2016)
   Hot Topic is introducing new jackets based on the DC TV shows including Gotham, The Flash, Arrow, and Supergirl. There is also one based on the White Canary. The jackets cost $70 -80
   Link:http://io9.gizmodo.com/hot-topics-new-dc-based-jackets-look-kind-of-great-1788024434?rev=1476979677090&utm_campaign=socialflow_io9_facebook&utm_source=io9_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow  

GREEN ARROW COMICS & TOY NEWS

1. Batman, DC sit atop comic book sales charts again in September  (Date: 14 Oct 2016)
   DC is the Direct Market sales leader for the third consecutive months. DC also has 8 out of the top 10 comic books: Batman #6, All-Star Batman #2, Batman #7, Justice League #4, Trinity #1, Supergirl #1, Suicide Squad #2, and Justice League #5. Civil War II #5 and The Walking Dead #158 round out the list.
   Link:http://www.newsarama.com/31558-batman-dc-sit-atop-comic-book-sales-charts-again-in-september.html  

2. DC’s new action figures include a triumvirate of awesome female superheroes (Date: 18 Oct 2016)
   Supergirl, Vixen, and Wonder Woman get action figures. Supergirl does look like Melissa Benoist. Vixen will be ‘Arrow’s’ Vixen, not the one from ‘Legends.’    
   Link:http://io9.gizmodo.com/dcs-new-action-figures-include-a-triumvirate-of-awesome-1787924938

NEXT EPISODE

Promo for Next Week: Episode – “Penance” (Date: 26 Oct 2016)
Article:http://comicbook.com/2016/10/19/arrow-season-5-episode-4-penance-sneak-preview/

Episode:   “Penance” [Season 5 Episode 4]

Air Date:       Wednesday, Date October 26. 2016

Summary:    Oliver and Lyla team up on a secret mission for Diggle. Felicity finds out and disapproves of the plan and opts to stay behind. When Tobias Church launches a deadly assault against the city, Felicity must decide if she wants to send the recruits out sans the Green Arrow.

Director:       Dermott Downs

Writers:         Brian Ford Sullivan and Oscar Balderrama

IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5584146/?ref_=ttfc_fc_tt

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Starling Tribune – Season 5 Edition – The Recruits (A CW Network Arrow Television Show Fan Podcast)

The Official Arrow Podcast of the Gonna Geek Network

Episode:               “The Recruits” [Season 5  Episode 2]

Air Date:              Wednesday, October 12, 2016

Director:              James Bamford

                http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0051466/?ref_=tt_ov_dr

                The stunt coordinator turned director | 5x Arrow – last season’s “Brotherhood” and “Code of Silence,” last week’s “Legacy” and is slated to direct episode 5.8

Writers:                Speed Weed

                http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2373535/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr4

5x Arrow | 7x Haven | 23x Arrow – co-executive producer

Beth Schwartz

                http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2584087/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr5  

18x Arrow | 2x Legends of Tomorrow | 23x Arrow – co-executive producer

Promo: https://www.comicbookmovie.com/dc_tv/arrow/the-emerald-archer-assembles-a-new-team-in-the-promo-for-arrow-season-a145727

Weekly Ratings

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 Legacy 5-Oct-16 1.89

02 The Recruits 5-Oct-16 1.94

03 A Matter Of Trust 5-Oct-16

04 Penance 5-Oct-16

05 Human Target 2-Nov-16

06 So It Begins TBA

07 Vigilante TBA

08 TBA TBA

09 What We Leave Behind TBA

• Part 1: The Plot, Themes and Characters
• What was the overall theme for this episode / What was the link to the ep. name
  • Ollie building team; Ollie becomes Bratva
• Fight scenes & Stunts: Share your thoughts
  • RIng the bell fights are brutal, great choice for Bam Bam to direct
  • Church v. Ollie – round 2
• Flashbacks: Share your thoughts
  • Brutal, just brutal
• Ollie:
  • Protecting himself from being left again
  • Actually does some work as Mayor
  • “I have failed these recruits as a leader”
  • Finally listens to Felicity for the right reasons
  • Decides to form team
  • Honor legacy of father
  • Been 10 years for him – 5 for us
• Diggle
  • Getting setup bad.
  • Who will save him
  • Finds peace being told what to do – chain of command
  • Genesis day effect – illegal nuke tech tied to Genesis Day
  • Moment in this week’s episode of Flash revealed impact of Flashpoint on Diggle
• Thea
  • Super competent as chief of staff
  • Still not missing the hero life at all
  • Gets through to Lance – offers him Deputy Mayor job (Michelle called it!)
• Felicity
  • Gives Ollie the lectures he needs
  • Lies to new BF – like Ollie had to do to her in season 1
  • Starts to feel guilty when she hears Ragman’s story
• Lance
  • Still drinking – late for security work at clinic event
  • Offered job by Thea
  • Interesting moments with Thea
• Curtis
  • Tries the salmon ladder – not successful
  • Gives Ollie the “we need to trust and respect you” speech
• Wild Dog
  • Doesn’t like code name
  • Says Arrow won’t be the boss of him
  • Disobeys order to not engage – gets piece of rag; “evidence”
• Ragman
  • After Amertek because their tech built nuke – Genesis Day
  • Chooses to help Ollie over vengeance
  • Decides to join Ollie after “Honor fathers” speech
• Tobias Church
  • Has $100 million to buy weapons from Amertek
  • Stops man from helping Amertek boss – to save him money
• Prometheus
  • Gets the jump on Tobias Church – the Arrow is mine!
  • Reveals name

CURRENT EPISODE DC EASTER EGGS & POP CULTURE REFERENCES

Season Episode  “The Recruits” (Date: 12  Oct 2016)
Article: http://comicbook.com/2016/10/13/arrow-5-things-you-might-have-missed-in-the-recruits/   

1. Return of the salmon ladder – Curtis is shown attempting the salmon ladder, and the salmon ladder is an actual thing and not created for the show
2. Amertek -Even before they were the manufacturers of the Genesis Day missiles, Amertek were pretty sketchy characters. Amertek Industries is a weapons manufacturer, tech conglomerate and defense contractor arguably best known for their biggest gun (literally and figuratively), the “Toastmaster” BG-80. Designed by John Henry Irons, their brutality turned him off of weapons-making and he left Amertek to go into hiding, taking on the name Henry Johnson. The guns would later make their way into the hands of street gangs in Metropolis and Washington, DC. Seeing his weapons on the streets, coupled with the then-recent death of his idol Superman, led Irons to take on the armored superhero identity of Steel.
3. Ragman – In the show, Ragman’s family was killed when the missile hit Havenrock. In the comics, Ragman is a Gotham-based vigilante who wears the mystical Suit of Souls, from which his powers come. Created by Robert Kanigher and Joe Kubert, Ragman has a bit of a Ghost Rider thing going on, with the costume allowing him to take the souls of the guilty — except that in the case of Ragman, he can summon their abilities later in battle. By being used in this way, the evil can actually earn redemption and passage to Heaven.

ARROW NEWS:

1. Supergirl and Arrow Boss Says Ollie and Kara won’t get along (Date: 11 Oct 2016)
   As per Andrew Kreisberg regarding the crossover “Part of Oliver’s [Stephen Amell] journey in those episodes is he’s kind of hit his breaking point for things he’s willing to accept. He’s had Mirakuru soldiers, the Lazarus Pit, magic, and Damien Darhk, but flying aliens who can incinerate you with their eyes is one beyond the pale for him. He’s keeping his distance, which is a very Oliver thing to do. Even Kara comments, ‘Does he not like me?’ Barry’s like, ‘No, that’s kind of how he treats everybody.’

Link: http://screencrush.com/supergirl-arrow-crossover-oliver-reaction/

2. Guillermo del Toro has an open invite to direct Arrow (Date: 8 Oct 2016)
   del Toro teamed up with Arrow executive producer Marc Guggenheim for Trollhunters, a new animated series.  Guggenheim was asked about NYCC if del Toro might appear to do an episode of Arrow.   “I’d be lying if I said I never broached the topic with him,” Guggenheim says. “He’s so busy and he is filming right now actually up in Toronto.”

“He’s got a standing invitation,” Guggenheim concludes.
            Link: http://comicbook.com/2016/10/08/guillermo-del-toro-has-a-standing-invitation-to-arrow/

3. Arrow’s Wild Dog to feature in DC/CW’s Invasion crossover  (Date:11 Oct 2016)
   Rick Gonzales, who plays Wild Dog, tweeted out a picture of his mask with the Flash’s mask. It was later confirmed that Wild Dog will be part of the crossover event.
   Link:http://www.cbr.com/arrows-wild-dog-to-feature-in-dccws-invasion-crossover/  

DC TV NEWS

1. Flash Hits a Series Low Rating (Date: 12 Oct 2016)
   The latest episode of The Flash, titled Paradox, hit a series low 1.0/4 in the rating share and drew in 2.75 million viewers overall. The season started off with a dip in ratings, as the premiere episode averaged a 1.2 in the demographic and drew in 3.1 million viewers, which was down from 3.6 million in its season 2 premier
   Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/10/12/the-flashs-paradox-episode-hits-a-series-low/
2. Supergirl premier rockets CW ratings to 8-year high  (Date: 11  Oct 2016)
   Supergirl premiere got 3 million viewers and a 1.1 18-49 demo rating. This episode is the most-watched Monday night show on the CW since a 2008 episode of “Gossip Girl.” On CBS, the season 1 finale drew in 6.1 million viewers and a 1.3 rating in the 18-49 demo
   Link:http://www.cbr.com/supergirl-premiere-rockets-cw-ratings-to-8-year-high/  

3. Arrow Boss Teases Most Ambitious Crossover yet (Date: 13 Oct 2016)
   The arrival of the Dominators will force the Arrowverse’s superheroes to team up for what Guggenheim calls their “most ambitious” crossover yet.

“This year,” Guggenheim continues, “we’re doing by far the most ambitious crossover we’ve ever done. It’s basically a huge three-part story that also brings in Supergirl, so it’s crossing over all four shows. It’s telling one big epic movie of a story. It’s not setting up any other spin-offs, it’s just big, bombastic, huge action. There’s also some really poignant character moments. There’s a lot of plot lines, particularly I would say in Flash and Legends, that come to fruition in the crossover. It’s by far the most ambitious thing we’ve ever attempted. I want to say it’s by far one of the most ambitious things anyone in network television has ever attempted. It’s completely insane.”

Link:http://www.ew.com/article/2016/10/13/arrow-flash-supergirl-legends-crossover-spoilers  

4. Supergirl will not Move into the Flarrow ‘verse (Date: 8 Oct 2016)
   Fans had speculated and hoped that a move to the CW might unify Supergirl with the Flarrow universe during the upcoming crossover.  Executive Producer Andrew Kreisberg explain how the jump will work saying “Not for her entire world, but Kara will be traveling from her dimension to our dimension, “our” being the world that The Flash, Arrow, and Legends lives in.”

Link: http://comicbook.com/2016/10/08/supergirl-will-not-be-moved-into-flash-arrow-and-legends-dimensi/

5. James Olson Becomes Guardian on Supergirl (Date: 12 Oct 2016)
   James Olsen (Mehcad Brooks) is about to make the move from faithful sidekick to kickass masked vigilante later this season on The CW’sSupergirl.

Via Andrew Kresberg: “James has a pretty big turn coming up. These next few episodes are going to make him realize that being a photographer… is not enough for him, so he’s going to go on a pretty exciting career trajectory that we’re really pumped by. James is going to decide that he can no longer sit back and be a sidekick, so he’s going to decide to become a vigilante and he’s going to become Guardian — complete with the shield — which is going to cause a massive problem in his relationship with Kara [Melissa Benoist], because he has decided not to tell her. Now there’s this new masked vigilante, and she has her own feelings about vigilantes, and it becomes a push and pull about who gets to decide who gets to be a hero? He’s recruited Winn [Jeremy Jordan] to help him, Winn is his man in the van, so the two of them are doing this together. Winn and James together is comedy gold. Watching Winn, as he takes his job at the DEO, but then he’s lying to everybody about how he’s spending his nights, because he’s going out with James, and how he walks in exhausted or walks in with a black eye and says he walked into a door, is the fun excitement of building these first 10 episodes.”

Link: http://www.blastr.com/2016-10-12/james-olsen-become-dc-comics-vigilante-guardian-cws-supergirl

5. Did Flashpoint create a future Legends of Tomorrow superhero? (Date: 13 Oct 2016)
   While Barry visited Felciity in this week’s episode of The Flash, he learned that Diggle has a son now. Could this be the John Diggle, Jr. we met in the Legends episode called “Star City 2046”?
   Link:http://www.cbr.com/did-flashpoint-create-a-future-legends-of-tomorrow-superhero/  

ARROW CAST & CREW INTERVIEWS

1. From NYCC: Matt Ryan is Open To Returning as Constantine on Arrow (Date: 8  Oct 2016)
   DC was doing a panel for the upcoming Justice League Dark cartoon.  During the panel Matt Ryan was asked if he’s be open to returning to Arrow.  Ryan said that this is the first time he’s been free in awhile, but in this crazy ride of acting, he’s learned to not rule anything out.” He said that in terms of an Arrow return, he’s open to it because: “I love the character.”

Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/10/09/nycc-matt-ryan-open-to-returning-as-constantine-on-arrow/

NEXT EPISODE

Promo for Next Week: Episode – “A Matter of Trust” (Date: 12  Oct 2016)
Article:https://www.comicbookmovie.com/dc_tv/arrow/arrow-season-5-episode-3-promo-a-matter-of-trust-a145949  

Episode:   “A Matter of Trust” [Season 5  Episode 3]

Air Date:       Wednesday, October 19, 2016

Summary:    WRESTLING STAR CODY RHODES BRINGS THE SMACK DOWN TO STAR CITY —Now that Oliver (Stephen Amell) has his new team, they are ready to hit the streets but Oliver doesn’t feel they are ready. Headstrong Wild Dog (guest star Rick Gonzalez) defies the Green Arrow’s orders and sets out on his own after a new drug dealer, Derek Sampson (guest star Cody Rhodes), who is terrorizing Star City. Sampson proves more powerful than Wild Dog and it is up to the Green Arrow to go head to head with Sampson to save his teammate. Gregory Smith directed the episode written by Ben Sokolowski & Emilio Ortega Aldrich

Director:       Gregory Smith

Writers:         Ben Sokolowski and Emilio Ortega Aldrich

IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5584144/?ref_=ttfc_fc_tt

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Starling Tribune – Season 5 Edition – Legacy (A CW Network Arrow Television Show Fan Podcast)

The Official Arrow Podcast of the Gonna Geek Network

Episode:            “Legacy” [Season 5  Episode 1]

Air Date:           Wednesday, October 5th, 2016

Director:           James Bamford

                        http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0051466/?ref_=tt_ov_dr

                        The stunt coordinator turned director | 5x Arrow – last season’s “Brotherhood” and “Code of Silence,” next week’s “The Recruits” and is slated to direct episode 5.8

Writers:             Greg Berlanti – story by and developed by credit

                        http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0075528/?ref_=tt_ov_wr

Executive producer of Arrow, The Flash, Legends of Tomorrow, and Supergirl (aka “The Berlantiverse)

Marc Guggenheim – story by and teleplay by credit

                        http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0973233/?ref_=tt_ov_wr  

Executive producer of Arrow, Legends of Tomorrow | 16x teleplay Arrow | 12x writer Arrow | 6x Legends of Tomorrow

Andrew Kreisberg – developed by credit

                        http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1132610/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr3   

Arrow – 10x teleplay, 2x written | Flash – 5x teleplay, 3x written | 2x Legends of Tomorrow

Wendi Mericle – teleplay by credit

                        http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1355890/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr5   

Executive producer – Arrow | 19x Arrow (writer)

Weekly Ratings

Episode 15: Rating of 1.89. This was down a bit from 2.19 for the season 4 finale and 2.67 for the season 4 premiere!

3 October 2016

Monday

Supergirl
(No Ep.)

Premiere Oct 10th

4 October 2016

Tuesday

Flash (Ep. 3.01)

“Flashpoint”
After preventing Eobard Thawne from killing Nora Allen, Barry returns with Eobard to the present and imprisons him in a cage that dampens his speed.

5 October 2016

Arrow (Ep. 5.01)
“Legacy”
Oliver is distracted from his new duties as mayor by continuing as Green Arrow alone, while his old team members have gone their separate ways

6 October 2016

Legends Of Tomorrow

(No Ep.)

Premiere Oct 13th

7 October 2016

No DC on CW!!

No episode

Links for Other Shows
Arrow: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arrow_episodes#Season_5_.282016.29
Flash: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Flash_episodes#Season_3_.282016.29
Supergirl: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Supergirl_episodes

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating
01 Legacy 5-Oct-16 1.89
02 The Recruits 5-Oct-16
03 A Matter Of Trust 5-Oct-16
04 Penance 5-Oct-16
05 Human Target TBA
06 So It Begins TBA
07 Vigilante TBA

Part 1: The Plot, Themes and Characters

• What was the overall theme for this episode / What was the link to the ep. name
  • It’s a One Man Show i.e. very Ollie-centric
    • Legacy tie to Green Arrow’s legacy on the city and the legacy of the team continuing on (eventually)
    • Flashbacks to eventually show Ollie become Bratva and man on island in pilot
  • Laurel, Laurel, Laurel
• Fight scenes & Stunts: Share your thoughts
  • Anarky has nothing on Ollie this time around
    • Strange as he held his own with Thea last season
    • Arrow through the wrists
  • Fight Club!
    • Ollie is brutal, the neck breaking move gets repeated
  • Ollie fights with a chair
    • Neck break repeated to keep his secret.
    • No one goes to check on the mayor after this fight?
  • Cops rumble with Church’s goons
  • Helicopter fight
    • Did anyone else feel this cramped quarters fight felt very Bourne-like?
  • Dark Archer Prometheus just owns the good guy cop
• Flashbacks: Share your thoughts
  • Anatoly!
  • Fight Club Ollie is a badass
• Ollie:
  • He’s got sleeves! And the voice modulator is gone to be replaced with the Bale growl
  • Killing again and with no regret it seems
    • Malcolm was right all along, that Green Arrow must do what’s necessary or not be out there at all
    • had Oliver killed Damien Darhk when he had the chance, Laurel would still be alive
    • Only Thea calls him on this which is strange
  • Mayor Handsome
  • Cool new gadgets!
    • Parachute arrow
  • Diggle
    • Return to the Army doesn’t seem to be all he expected.
    • Thinks it’s a good idea to rebuild the team
  • Thea
    • Wants to be normal and really resists wearing the Speedy gear until she has no choice.
  • Felicity
    • Everything seems good for her now
    • What is her job exactly?
    • She keeps Ollie and Thea’s loft?
  • Curtis
    • Ready to become a full fledged member of Team Arrow
  • Laurel
    • Her final words
      • “Please don’t let me be the last Canary. That way, a part of me will always be out there with you.”
    • Her ghost hangs over everyone – take a drink anytime someone says her name this week – at least 12 mentions
• Quentin
  • Back off the wagon, A drunk needs a reason to stay sober,” Lance notes, “and I’m fresh out, my friend.”
  • Momma Smoak is in Heaven
  • Finds his purpose in helping Ollie?
• What’s the Flashpoint connection?

CURRENT EPISODE DC EASTER EGGS & POP CULTURE REFERENCES

Article: http://comicbook.com/2016/10/05/arrow-easter-eggs-and-dc-comics-references-in-legacy (comicbook.com)  

1. Captain Pike –  Is that a Star Trek reference? We really can’t decide. Either way, per his nametag, that police captain talking to Thea in the opening scene appears to be “Captain Pike,” the captain of the USS Enterprise immediately prior to James T. Kirk.
2. Lonnie Machin – A recurring villain from season four of Arrow, Lonnie Machin (the first baddie Oliver fights in season five) is better known to DC Comics fans as the antihero Anarky.
3. Wild Dog – the first new member of  Team Arrow version 2.0 was introduced to the audience, in the form of Wild Dog, a hockey mask-wearing, gun-toting vigilante who was inspired by — and then shot in the kneecap by — Green Arrow. The character first appeared in Wild Dog #1 in 1987, making him one of the first new superheroes created following Crisis on Infinite Earths. Created by Road to Perdition writer Max Allan Collins, “his super power is guns.”
4. Konstantin Kovar – Konstantin Kovar is the father of Leonid Kovar, better known as Red Star.  In the comics, Konstantin originally wasn’t a villain, but a relatively benign figure: an archaeologist who unearthed a nasty bit of business that gave his son powers. But Red Star himself, a loyal communist in the Soviet era, was occasionally a problem for the other heroes before he turned his life around.  Eventually, he would become a bad guy in service of the Soviet Union — something that might make him an interesting figure going forward in case Anatoly Knyazev’s comic book destiny of becoming the cybernetically-enhanced “KGBeast” is to become part of Arrow‘s story.
5. Tobias Church – Church’s nickname is apparently Charon, the ferryman of Hades from Greek mythology. There is a Charon in DC Comics, although he shares basically nothing in common with this version. This is something that will be repeated again in the episode: choosing a historical/mythological meaning instead of a contemporary/comics one.
6. Vigilante – “Mr. Ski Goggles,” as Felicity calls him, is actually Vigilante, a DC Comics antihero created by Marv Wolfman and George Perez.  Perez provided the police sketch seen on Felicity’s computer screen.  Created during Marv Wolfman’s time on the New Teen Titans, Vigilante in the comics is a former New York district attorney who’s set on the path of justice after hsi family is killed by the mob. The CW describes him similarly: Chase is “Star City’s new district attorney and an ally of Mayor Oliver Queen (Stephen Amell), who aims to clean up the streets through the legal system.”
7. Hub City and Bludhaven – According to Detective Malone, before he made his way to Star City, apparently he haunted Hub City — the home of The Question — and Bludhaven, the home of Nightwing.
8. Ross Paints – Is that a little bit of free advertising for comic book artist and painter Alex Ross on the side of the truck Tobias Church and his goons are driving to their crime spree?
9. Bertinelli – Whoever the head of the Bertinelli crime family is now that Helena has killed her father, he makes an appearance here — only to be immediately killed by Tobias Church’s men.

ARROW NEWS:

1. Arrow Showrunner breaks down all those new S5 characters (Date: 05 Oct 2016)
   Executive producer and showrunner Wendy Mericle gave an in-depth look into some of season 5’s new characters in an interview with CBR.com. Included in the interview are discussions about Ragman, Artemis, Wild Dog, and Mr. Terrific. Mericle drops hints about Vigilante and Prometheus. When asked about Katie Cassidy, Mericle says, “Nobody ever really dies on ‘Arrow.’ She’s going to be kind of across the shows, and we’ll see her in the premiere, and we’ll see her later in the season as well.”    
   Link:http://www.cbr.com/arrow-showrunner-breaks-down-all-those-new-s5-characters/  
2. Did Arrow just hint at a Flashpoint connection? (Date: 05 Oct 2016)
   Producers have stated that Diggle will be impacted by Flashpoint. On the season premiere, Diggle said he has “the worst case of deja vu ever.” The article speculates that perhaps Diggle’s wife and child could be erased.
   Link:http://comicbook.com/dc/2016/10/05/did-arrow-just-hint-at-a-flashpoint-connection-/  
3. Arrow’ Producer: How Oliver will juggle being mayor and Green Arrow in season 5 (Date: 05 Oct 2016)
   In an interview with Variety, Wendy Mericle discussed how poorly Ollie is as a mayor and Ollie’s time with the Bratva, but she reveals a hint about Diggle – “And yeah, Flashpoint will have an impact on him, especially in respect to his family life.”
   Linkhttp://variety.com/2016/tv/news/arrow-season-5-premiere-teaser-spoilers-1201878902/
4. Arrow Season 5: Who is Wild Dog? (Date: 05 Oct 2016)
   com goes into the history of Wild Dog. Covering his first appearance in “Wild Dog #1” in 1987 to his Booster Gold run. Wild Dog was created by Max Allan Collins, who stated that Wild Dog’s “super power is guns.” Wild Dog is star athlete Jack Wheeler, who had to become a mechanic after an injury. He became Wild Dog after the woman he loved was gun down.
   Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/10/05/arrow-season-5-who-is-wild-dog-/  
5. Arrow Season 5 Premiere Ratings Released (Date: 6 Oct 2016)
   Last October, The CW’s Arrow opened its fourth season with 2.67 million viewers; however, on Wednesday, only 1.9 million viewers tuned-in for the show’s fifth season premiere, which is a drop of 29%, and it pulled in a paltry 0.7 rating in the key 18-49 demographic, which is a decline of 36 percent from a year ago.
   Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/10/06/arrow-season-5-premiere-ratings-released/
6. Arrow: Stephen Amell talks legacy, Russia, and why Prometheus is the right villain for season 5 (Date: 05  Oct 2016)
   In an interview with IGN, Stephen Amell discusses season 5. When asked about Prometheus, Stephen said, “ Prometheus is a villain that is a byproduct of Oliver Queen being Green Arrow. That’s something that you get to do once you’re five years into a show. In a lot of ways, I think the most success that we’ve had with a villain, in my mind, was with Manu Bennett as Deathstroke. One of the reasons is because we got to tell a really personal story. We got to tell the story, sort of the dueling time of their time on the island and then their time in the Starling City at the time. Because Prometheus is a villain of Oliver’s creation, so to speak, I feel like it will bring in that personal element as well.”
   Link:http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/10/05/arrow-stephen-amell-talks-legacy-russia-and-why-prometheus-is-the-right-villain-for-season-5  
7. Spartan’s new helmet and a Diggle/Oliver-centric episode of Arrow is coming (Date: 02 Oct 2016)
   Bleeding Cool – Picture of Diggle in his new helmet. According to the article, the fourth episode will focus on Diggle and Ollie.
   Link:http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/10/02/spartans-new-helmet-diggle-oliver-centric-episode-arrow-coming/

ARROW CAST & CREW INTERVIEWS

1. Arrow’s Kellum on his gradual evolution into Mister Terrific (Date: 05 Oct 2016)
   In an interview with CBR. com, Echo Kellum discusses Curtis’s evolution into Mr. Terrific. He talks about Curtis’s background is different than the others – he isn’t jaded and doesn’t have a tragic past. He mentions that the show will explore Curtis’s marriage and hints about how he, Cisco, and Felicity will interact during the crossover.
   Link:http://www.cbr.com/arrows-kellum-on-his-gradual-evolution-into-mister-terrific/
2. Chad L. Coleman talks playing a villain in “Arrow” (Date: 04 Oct 2016)
   Chad L. Coleman stopped by the KTLA Morning News to talk about his role in “Arrow.” “No more Mr. Nice Tyrese.” “Finally hired an ugly guy”
   Link:http://ktla.com/2016/10/04/chad-l-coleman-talks-playing-a-villain-in-arrow/

DC TV NEWS

1. Meet your new Superman! Tyler Hoechlin talks taking flight and wearing tights on ‘Supergirl’ (Date: 03 Oct 2016)
   In an interview with EW, Tyler discusses how he got the role, his influences, and working with the cast.
   Link:http://www.ew.com/article/2016/10/03/supergirl-superman-tyler-hoechlin-season-2?xid=entertainment-weekly_socialflow_twitter  
2. The Flash boss previews seismic changes as a result of Flashpoint (Date: 03 Oct 2016)
   In an article with EW, Andrew Kreisberg discusses Flashpoint. The season will be more about the consequences of Flashpoint than the event itself. Andrew states, “That’s one of the things that we’re attempting to do is have the pitfalls of time travel be long-lasting and that some things can be fixed, and then some things are broken forever.”
   Link:http://www.ew.com/article/2016/10/03/flash-season-3-spoilers-flashpoint   
3. Flash Honest Trailer (Date: 04 Oct 2016)
   Honest trailer by Screen Junkies is hilarious
   Link:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvUXbzxxdo0  ARROW CAST & CREW NEWS

NEXT EPISODE

Promo for Next Week:
Article:https://www.comicbookmovie.com/dc_tv/arrow/the-emerald-archer-assembles-a-new-team-in-the-promo-for-arrow-season-a145727

Episode:   “The Recruits” [Season 5  Episode 2]

Air Date:        Wednesday, October 12, 2016

Summary:      Oliver recruits Curtis, Wild Dog and Evelyn Sharp for his team, but his training methods prove to be too much for some to handle. In flashbacks, Oliver continues his initiation into the Bratva.

Director:         James Bamford

Writers:          Greg Berlanti, Marc Guggenheim, Andrew Kreisberg, Speed Weed, Beth Schwartz

IMDB:            http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5584142/?ref_=ttfc_fc_tt

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This podcast was recorded October 6th, 2016.

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